When we got my Ashley (miniature poodle) back in 1984 the breeder had been feeding her Joy. I wasn't able to find it except for maybe a few months and then it disappeared (at least in my area) and I switched to Eukanuba. Dog foods are funny. The breeder whom I purchased Whitney (standard poodle) from a few years later had her on Hi Tor. The same thing happened - it disappeared - couldn't find it anywhere! It didn't matter much, though, because I found she had a lot of gas and, at the vet's suggestion, put her on Eukanuba too. End result - happy dog, happy humans. I have stayed with Eukanuba and have been using it for years.