Thank You. Yes I own both sire and dam. Titled them myself too. Yes my first breeding of my own line, but growing up my dad bred rough collies and labs (not together) mom bred toy poodles and grand parents bred springers. I assisted in a lot of those breedings. I'm very pleased with this litter. largest pup is 15lbs smallest is 14. so far everything i hoped to achieve with this breeding is right on target.