We got Casper and Kitty from a woman who my husbands colleague at work knew. Her cat had 3 kittens and they were heading to the shelter. We had not planned on taking cats just yet, but we coulnd't let this opportunity pass us and we took them. The 3rd kitten also avoided shelter, the woman who's cat got those kittens, her mother then took the 3rd kitten. Happy ending to that then.