Soo Looking Furrward to Surgery!! [GOING Home..]

[NoahsMommy]

please don't even bother to speak before the unspoken story of the survivor.

Here is your chance "survivor"... tell us why you chose not to have an interpreter there after all your previous experiences in hospitals.

Right on, Laurie! Please, Gina, enlighten us...give us your version of why you wouldn't set up/organize (however one goes about doing this) an interpreter when you've had so many problems in the past?? Why would you repeatedly and WILLINGLY subject yourself to this when its been such a problem that you are subsposedly SUEING the state of California over it - MY tax dollars, btw.

And I agree with the others, if you're going to be checking others out on their spelling, check yours first please. You have MUCH bigger fish to fry to be worrying about spelling, like getting better and scheduling Physical Therapy. I was in TWO car accidents in June where I totalled two vehicles ( ) and Physical Therapy was a godsend as I sprained almost every part of my body. (I never told Pet Talk about this.) Get to Physical Therapy as soon as your MD allows you, you'll be so happy you went.

Believe what you wish, these comments ARE actually made with your best interests in mind. We would love it if you had your life back to normal - no more surgery, no more moving, no more drama - just a happy, regular life.

[Karen]

Remember, folks, it wasn't the surgery she didn't have an interpreter for - it was the sickness after she came home that meant she had to go back to the emergency room - that's when the lack of translator/communication came into play.

Just a small point of information: Spelt is a word, but isn't the past tense of spell - that would be spelled. Spelt is a kind of grain, related to wheat.

[NoahsMommy]

Remember, folks, it wasn't the surgery she didn't have an interpreter for - it was the sickness after she came home that meant she had to go back to the emergency room - that's when the lack of translator/communication came into play.

OK, I'm willing to accept this. But...I find it incredibly fishy...interesting...odd...WIERD...that an ER doctor or the Admitting doctor...at least this is what I'm gleaning from the only person that will tell us anything (Cindy as Taz_Zoe)...would not WRITE DOWN: what was wrong with you, instructions, why you were reacting, what medications he was giving you, ect. WHY would a doctor treat someone that couldn't understand him and not tell you about it??

That is basically treating someone WITHOUT CONSENT. Something that we all earlier agreed that was kinda important. Something I said myself a DOCTOR would never, ever do if given the choice. As I said before, if EVER a time when a consent is NOT signed, it was because of the patient and the Admitting staff, NOT the doctor, I'd gaurantee that, based on the doctor's malpractice policy.

Whenever I've been discharged from the 4 hospitals I've been admitted or been to the ER at, they've given me discharge orders (written) and even a write up about whatever brought me to the ER - and I've been to the ER for many things, not just my pesky Crohn's Disease - ALL in written form, which includes aftercare, phone numbers of doctors, the hospitals, includes prescriptions, treatment instructions, etc. Did I mention that this has always been in written form for me??

Editing to add:

And please choose your words correctly: 'survivor' is not something we would use as to refer to someone that just had surgery. You are 'recovering' from knee surgery.

Maybe its because of the language barrier, but maybe this can be a learning tool as well. 'Survivor' is a term used only when someone has "survived" something where they've almost crossed to the brink of death, like cancer, a heart attack, a deadly disease, a scary car accident. This is what was meant by the above comment. Oh, survivors of 9-11 or the recent Bridge Collapse...those are survivors. Just an FYI.

[sandragonfly]

oh good grief.. talk about judgement.

well, for one, I'm not going to correct you, craftlady, and everyone, if you read somewhere else here that correcting people's grammar is one of my pet peeves.. I didn't mean to 'chide' - just that when someone spells something wrong, I thought they didn't read something correctly, even the link phred provided about laws. (e.g. he used translator instead of interpreter) but, I can understand how my last post sounded like. (with limited signal & unbearing pain). if someone loves harry potter so much and spells herry poter, I just find it really funny. you know, I believe you need to know pretty much everything before you could really help anyone.

judgement or not, it'd be either that I see the help or not, the person reacts individually. for this one, I absolutely don't see how people ARE suppose to try to help when a thread rocketed off the point about something it wasn't even about and the worst now, they're explaining things wrong. I came back to this in for a long time for some good encouragements, however it ends with all of posts talking about constent forms and what-I-should-write lectures I never asked for.. and, thinking I'm all this naive as much as they're with me obviously doesn't help. I actually had to look back at my title to see if I had changed it or something. really.. maybe it was the medication.

first of all,

- it's NOT my responsibility to GET an interpreter but to ASK for one, in written, yes if I want or need one.

but I am sorry.. who said I didn't chose to? oh okay, I guess I chose to be unconscious this time.. and for the record, I am not angry at a mispelling word, only disgusted how this place have became lately, especially to my friend who have been helping me more than she should.

I used this word survivor as I've fought through for my rights, privledges and for my services many times before - I thought to scan a few annunal reports where it talks about cases of mine suing several hospitals .. but, ..with all of impliments here stating I "like" to be a victim, that surely doesn't encourage me to, now.

help thyself, want the answers? earn them.

noahsmommy, I'd be more than glad to give you the name of the clerk and number as it seemed our, my or even non-dramatic tazzoee's words didn't matter but of course, believe what you wish too.

yes, I understand you and others have went to hospitals or worked as one but that does not mean (and obviously by your posts) you've lived by MY laws or even principles as much as I know as I recall neither of you are deaf. many doctors and nurses don't yet anyway, to understand and serve us better ..

delilah, I fell off the crutches because of SO much, nerve-pinching pressure pain that made me feel like throwing up trying to get up. how soon did you called? today is my only fourth day.. bathroom, yes - goshness. we, cindy tried to call doctor yesterday, and today - closed. we try again tomorrow, definitely. thank you so much for staying with me..

and THANKYOU catty.. I always try my best and sometimes people can be so tearfully petty and painful.. I, alone don't always have the words. one person can't do it too much. on that, I've gave up. and they will be my friends if they will.

p.s. ~ spelt IS for the past tense of spell in british.. am I wrong to correct?

[NoahsMommy]

noahsmommy, I'd be more than glad to give you the name of the clerk and number as it seemed our, my or even non-dramatic tazzoee's words didn't matter but of course, believe what you wish too.

yes, I understand you and others have went to hospitals or worked as one but that does not mean (and obviously by your posts) you've lived by MY laws or even principles as much as I know as I recall neither of you are deaf. many doctors and nurses don't yet anyway, to understand and serve us better ..

Forgive me, but I don't really understand a lot of your post. I see that part of this is directed at me. You want to give me a clerks phone number to check on what?? I don't recall saying I didn't believe you regarding anything you've done - or haven't done.

Unless I missread or don't understand - wouldn't be the first time, I am a blondie!

Bunny has reinerated that we were intending our posts to help you for when you came back from your surgery/ER. The reason I posted all that "Consent Information" was for YOU, Gina, because I've myself have been in so much pain that I don't give a "flying you know what" and signed any darn form they've put in front of me at the ER. So, when the topic was, "a possibility of you not knowing what was in those forms you signed", I wrote what was in those forms you may have signed, to help YOU.

[sandragonfly]

thank you but it just doesn't make sense to me why you ARE trying to help me now and here how I was treated last time, I never wanted or asked for YOUR or her help.

I think we should continue this privately. or just leave it here as it has been.

[Catsnclay]

thank you but it just doesn't make sense to me why you ARE trying to help me now and here how I was treated last time, I never wanted or asked for YOUR or her help.

WOW

Don't you think you should try to be a little nicer to those who are trying to help you out??!!

[Daisy and Delilah]

I couldn't use crutches either. I used a walker. It's been my salvation through the knee replacement also.

I guess it was about the third or fourth day I called the doctor to see what we could do. I was having some serious pain and getting pretty upset that I was going to hurt myself if I did something I shouldn't. When I started physical therapy, they told me that I could do things I wasn't aware of. I was just too scared to try anything. The physical therapy was the turning point. After that, I recovered and went back to work. I guess it was about 10 days that I returned to work. Other people I know were back in less than a week afterwards. But......that may be too soon for normal activity. Remember, each case is different. With knee surgeries I've learned that one of the most important things is to not compare yourself to other people. You will recover at your own rate. When you get the doc on the phone, see if they can get you a walker--much better and much easier to use. Sometimes the orthopedic doctors have them right in the office for lending.
I guess another really important thing is to not rush your recovery by doing too much. Baby it for as long as possible. As long as your knee wasn't too badly damaged, it should heal and you'll be good for awhile Key words: no pivoting~~

[Whisk_Luva]

p.s. ~ spelt IS for the past tense of spell in british.. am I wrong to correct?

Yes Gina you are correct... I just looked it up in my dictonary.

Hope you feel better and the pain stops soon!

[Daisy and Delilah]

In this case, I hope I haven't given wrong advice. I am only speaking from my experience and experiences of many people I've talked to.

If you're back at the hospital for an emergency Gina, I hope all is well.

Please keep us updated when possible Gina or Taz.

[Karen]

I just heard from Gina, through a friend, Helen. Gina has been at the hospital since yesterday afternoon, they are giving her blood thinners as she has several blood clots in her right thigh, and the knee is infected. She's got a dangerously high fever, and cannot use her hand to type to log in to Pet Talk because there are a couple IV's in it. (Ouch, I hate IV's in the hand!)

Her friend will update me later today, the emergency-room physicians are talking scary stuff (amputation - to keep blood clots from killing her) but Gina's knee surgeon is supposed to be there in an hour or so, and hopefully will be able to get at the source of the infection and hopefully the blood thinners will work on the clots.

Keep our girl in your prayers, okay folks?

[Catsnclay]

Remember, folks, it wasn't the surgery she didn't have an interpreter for - it was the sickness after she came home that meant she had to go back to the emergency room - that's when the lack of translator/communication came into play.

Just a small point of information: Spelt is a word, but isn't the past tense of spell - that would be spelled. Spelt is a kind of grain, related to wheat.

Karen-

We are NOT knocking Gina for anything at all. I think you, too are misreading what we are trying to say.

We all have given her nice & thoughtful tips for the future, and she turns around and gets angry with us for mispelling a word

This thread was NOT about a spelling lesson.

If you are so close to Gina, I suggest strongly that you recommend that she rereads all these posts again - and realize that whe have done nothing but try to HELP her.

Thank you.

[Craftlady]

Just a small point of information: Spelt is a word, but isn't the past tense of spell - that would be spelled. Spelt is a kind of grain, related to wheat.

I like to learn new words Thank You for that information.

I'll correct my statement to read " btw, allot of bad grammer in her posts".

[Catty1]

If Gina doesn't mind - I would like to point out that spoken and written English, as most of us know it, has not been her first language for many years.

I am not joking when I say that video messages with someone "speaking" in American Sign Language would be easier for her to understand. Also - one can see the mood of the gestures and the expression of the face.

Here is a quote from the link Phred posted:

. . . American Sign Language (ASL) [is] a manually communicated language distinct from English and whose idioms and concepts are not directly translatable into English. It uses different sentence structure, grammar and syntax than English, and is as much a foreign language to English speaking persons as is French or German. Conversely, English is equally foreign to most deaf persons who rely on ASL for communication.

Just as far as English goes - I think Gina does VERY well.

Gina - I know you needed this interpretation AFTER your surgery...I cannot begin to imagine the pain. Gentle {{{hugs}}}

When you feel a bit better, laminating that small summaries of the ADA LAWS might not be a bad idea. God forbid you should need it again! But just in case.

Get well soon.!

[Daisy and Delilah]

After reading through this thread again:

Gina, you said you're falling down. Do you have crutches or a walker or a cane to help you? If not, you need one of those to help you get around. Also; my knee stayed black/blue/purple for about 4 days or so. After about a week, it should start getting better. Something else that might help you is a lift on the toilet seat. Then, it's not so painful to get up--that was my worst pain. Have some ice handy too for the swelling.

Can you call your doctor tomorrow about physical therapy? Good luck.