Oh Great! ALL the "Donation to Roxyluvsme13" threads have been DELETED!

[kittycats_delight]

If that is the case and the humane society has spay/neuter funds maybe Bri will be eligible. I can't imagine why they wouldn't be seeing their current finacial situation. That would be good all the way around. Atleast then they are all good for another year healthwise and it gives Bri's mom a chance to get things together if she is willing and able to do so.

Priorities most certainly have to change and maybe Bri's mom will finally allow her to get a job of some sorts. I just hope things work out. Things definately need to change for the better for them. Not just for themselves but for the animals too. And things have to change both for mom & Bri's physical and mental health as well. The way they are right now is not healthy in anyway shape or form. I just want what is best for them because inside all the anger, attitude and sadness Bri is a lovely girl. She just needs a normal life with not all the stresses of dealing with the worries of an adult world (financial and otherwise).

Please read all this before you respond (or not, as the case may be ):

1. This is the reply from the shelter I got a few minutes ago:



2. I replied that removing the animals right now would be too hard on the young woman, as most shelters are really stressed to the max.

I will PM Bri the Humane Society info.

Needless to say, I am NOT providing an address or anything...that means the animals would die. Period. High-kill shelter. So I hope no one even THINKS about that.

That's all for now.

[Logan]

I had no idea that this post was even here. I am the one who took responsibility for having Gizzie spayed. I'm glad I could.

I have no idea what the uproar is about, otherwise, as I haven't received any other monetary gifts through Paypal or through the mail. I have Rhonda's cell phone number (Bri's mother) and I have spoken to her once before. She was very appreciative of our efforts to help them, and we did, at least with one pet.

I tried to help Candace in her effort to help Bri and her pets. That was it. And we know that all money that came to me was sent directly to Northridge Animal Hospital to pay for Gizzie's spay. I have a receipt from them to prove it.

[Ginger's Mom]

Since the fact that the animals aren't spayed and neutered isn't really the problem in the household at this time, it really doesn't help at all. What is needed is someone who is connected with a no kill shelter that is willing to take the animals in until suitable housing can be found for them. Bri is going to need your support, don't let her down by letting her think that finding a low cost spay/neuter clinic is going to make everything alright. It will only prolong the problems.

[Catty1]

Bri is going to need your support, don't let her down by letting her think that finding a low cost spay/neuter clinic is going to make everything alright. It will only prolong the problems.

Good point - but they will be easier to rehome if they are spayed and neutered, don't you think?

It would be great if they could be fostered somewhere in Bri's city, as she could still see them every so often. Maybe the Humane Society has temporary fosters...I am sure they would be willing to help with the whole situation if Bri and her mom asked.

[caseysmom]

I can't believe all of this, she has asked for money lots of times, the majority of people are saying forget it you spend your money unwisely so take care of it. Now catty you were defending her, now you are calling animal control and trying to rehome the pets. Sure they may be better off somewhere else but is it really your business? The pets are fed and as far as we can tell they are loved, this is getting a bit over the edge if you ask me. just my opinion.

[Ginger's Mom]

I can't believe all of this, she has asked for money lots of times, the majority of people are saying forget it you spend your money unwisely so take care of it. Now catty you were defending her, now you are calling animal control and trying to rehome the pets. Sure they may be better off somewhere else but is it really your business? The pets are fed and as far as we can tell they are loved, this is getting a bit over the edge if you ask me. just my opinion.

Catty1 didn't call animal control to rehome the pets, she called them for suggestions as to what resources were available to help with the pets. I am the one who said (and has been saying) that the animals should be rehomed. And it is my (our?) business because Bri initially brought all of this to a head by asking for help to rehome Gizzy because of behavioral problems, which led to the spay suggestion and money drive. As a pet caring community we should be doing what we can to help these animals and at the same time to help this family.

Edited to Add: And as to your question Catty1, no I don't think having them neutered and spayed before being placed with a rescue will make a difference. I don't think rescue societies turn down animals because they aren't altered.

[Alysser]

Caseysmom, I don't think catty called AC to rehome the pets. She e-mailed them for suggestions one exactly what to do. She stated that she wouldn't call AC in that area because the dogs/cats/etc. would be put to sleep if she did.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I can't believe all of this, she has asked for money lots of times, the majority of people are saying forget it you spend your money unwisely so take care of it. Now catty you were defending her, now you are calling animal control and trying to rehome the pets. Sure they may be better off somewhere else but is it really your business? The pets are fed and as far as we can tell they are loved, this is getting a bit over the edge if you ask me. just my opinion.

And a suggestion to call child welfare....


Caseysmom>...
Amen sister!!!!

[Logan]

Good point - but they will be easier to rehome if they are spayed and neutered, don't you think?

It would be great if they could be fostered somewhere in Bri's city, as she could still see them every so often. Maybe the Humane Society has temporary fosters...I am sure they would be willing to help with the whole situation if Bri and her mom asked.

I have to tell you that in my experience, once a pet is rehomed, it is easier on all parties to let the adoption go through with no further interaction from the previous owner. I faced this situation, just last week, with Ben's adoptive family, asking to come see him and bring some more of his "things" to me. It was a hard call to make, but I had to tell them "no thanks". I think it would have been terribly confusing for him to see them and think maybe he had been on vacation for two weeks and was going to go back with them.

I have no idea whether Bri and Rhonda are even thinking of rehoming their pets (and I seriously doubt it), but if they do, Bri does not need to visit them in their new homes.

I'm so sorry that this whole issue has turned ugly. We tried to help and we did help with Gizzie, but it is up to Rhonda and Bri to make the next step in being responsible owners.

Logan, Honey, Baby Mack, Ben, Butter, Roger, Milly and Otto

[Catty1]

Posted by Catholic:

No one in that family seems like they DESERVES pets. Yep. I am totally judging them. I would really have a problem if they lived near me, and, as a community of pet lovers, I don't get how anyone could support this behaviour.


I edited my post because Karen asked me too. I love how two faced those of you who cried to her about it are.

1. First, for those who think I was calling Animal Control to seize the pets, go back and read the ENTIRE CONTENTS of #104. I think I state pretty clearly that I was NOT giving them the address, even if I had it. ES and caseysmom, I assume English IS your first language?

2. Regarding Catholic's part of post above - it's clear to me that some people here had much more knowledge of the situation than others. I was not one of the more informed people. I am now. That's not two-faced. That is learning more about the situation.

Even prior to that, I did shudder when Bri blatantly posted about asking for money again. Ugh. Not cool.

3. I cannot believe that anyone would think I was serious about calling child welfare - Bri could do that herself, if she wanted to. As I said in the post following, I was "grasping at a wet straw." I was just wishing something could be done about the situation.

Heavens...

[shais_mom]

ES and caseysmom, I assume English IS your first language?


Heavens...

I
Can't
Believe
you have the GALL to say this. These are adults here.
I was just starting to change my opinion of you.
Glad you stopped that.

[caseysmom]

Yes english is my first language but I am wondering why you asked them what they could do regarding enforcing no rabies shots, why ask?

[sasvermont]

Please.

[Edwina's Secretary]

1. First, for those who think I was calling Animal Control to seize the pets, go back and read the ENTIRE CONTENTS of #104. I think I state pretty clearly that I was NOT giving them the address, even if I had it. ES and caseysmom, I assume English IS your first language?

Even prior to that, I did shudder when Bri blatantly posted about asking for money again. Ugh. Not cool.

3. I cannot believe that anyone would think I was serious about calling child welfare - Bri could do that herself, if she wanted to. As I said in the post following, I was "grasping at a wet straw." I was just wishing something could be done about the situation.

Heavens...

English is my first language. Rudeness and busybodiness is not.

You sent me a pm soliciting contributing to this situation. I did not contribute.

Then I see you suggest contacting child welfare (I have NO idea what a wet straw is)....and then you contact animal welfare IN HER TOWN. Not exactly your backyard. And you "outline the situation to them."

I thought it out of line when I read it and I think it out of line now.