Oh Great! ALL the "Donation to Roxyluvsme13" threads have been DELETED!

[Karen]

But at least we have done good, in helping Bri convince her mother - and remember, she worked very hard doing that - that Roxy could be - and now is, happily, an inside doggie!

[CathyBogart]

This irritates me to no end...I had over $900 in unexpected expenses this month (and I make $1200 a month) and I still managed to get Jasper in to the vet when he needed it....exam, booster vaccinations, license renewal...total=$150. More than it costs to get an animal sterilized. Without scamming people for money.

What's going to happen if one of the unspayed dogs gets a pyometra? That's a $2,000 or more surgery that could be prevented with a $100 spay. Will they just be PTS?

[luvofallhorses]

Staci,

caseysmom is right. I meant the whole thing is ridicolous. Bri asking for money when she bought expensive things that she could have used towards Skye and Lily being spayed among getting shots, check ups, etc. I assume that Skye and Lily aren't spayed, right? Please correct me if I am wrong.
It would be horrible if Skye or Lily snuck out and got pregnant.

Bri,

I know you're young and all but you need to find a way atleast babysit or petsit, walk dogs, etc. to earn money if your mom won't spay or get proper vet care for your animals. even if you get allowance save it up so they can be spayed and get shots and check ups.

you should always have an emergency savings accounts for things if one of your pets got into something toxic, blocked from eating a bone, etc. have your mom get one, it is very important and a lot of vets atleast the vets where I live will do a payment plan. please look into that.

[jackie]

Ok, I just read through the link posted to cat general.

I think it is sad, and nothing more.

I refuse to help people who don't help themselves.

[Ginger's Mom]

I understand that people are upset about the whole situation, in all honesty, I am too. But, the latest deleted thread is no real surprise. Almost everyone on here understood that Bri needed someone to take charge of the medical needs of her animals because neither she nor her mother were able or willing to care for their veterinary or behavioral needs. Rather than train Roxy how to behave, chain her outside. Rather than deal with a peeing cat, have it spayed (although she did need to be spayed anyway). Problems like these have been appearing since October 2005, there is no reason for anyone to really believe that because someone decided to ask Pet Talk to pay for the vet bills that the people in the house will suddenly understand what it takes to care for the animals.

With all due respect to you Phred (and I really do mean that), I am just as glad that those threads disappeared. I think they show the worst of Pet Talk. So much bad advice and so many ignorant comments, is not what Pet Talk should be about. As to people learning about being taken advantage of by reviewing those types of threads, well, people are going to believe what they want to believe, and can come up with all kinds of excuses as to how the present situation is different. There were people who tried to make others see that they were being taken adventage of and those people were told that they could confine their opinions to PMs while new threads were being opened to promote the begging. No I am not sorry those threads went away at all.

[shais_mom]

Staci,

caseysmom is right. I meant the whole thing is ridicolous. Bri asking for money when she bought expensive things that she could have used towards Skye and Lily being spayed among getting shots, check ups, etc. I assume that Skye and Lily aren't spayed, right? Please correct me if I am wrong.
It would be horrible if Skye or Lily snuck out and got pregnant.

thanks Krista - I was just confused.

I agree wholeheartedly with Joh.
Catty - your attempts at helping the less fortunate are definately noble and nothing to sneeze at. BUT I think that your actions are misguided when it comes to some issues here. I think you'd be far better off - finding people in your own area that you can actually SEE attempting at improving their lives - b/c its certainly seems that Bri and her mom may be trying - but it is 2 steps forward 4 steps back.

[kuhio98]

I think a good guideline for all of us who try to help in these situations is that instead of donating to the person -- get the vet information. Mail the check directly to the vet. Specify it is to be used for so-in-so's account. That way, there will be no question as to how the money is spend.

[Cinder & Smoke]

Instead of donating to the person -- get the vet information.
Mail the check directly to the vet.
Specify it is to be used for so-in-so's account.
That way, there will be no question as to how the money is spend.

That IS what was done in this case ...
We had a Trusted Pet Talker in the US that served as The Banker ...
Donations went to her and then SHE took care of sending the money directly to The Vet.

There have been a few "errors" in some of the posts here - None (or VERY little)
of the Pet Talk Donated money was spent for anything other than the Pets' direct Vet care.
The Objections to money being poorly spent come from the fact that the OWNERS chose
to spend THEIR money on THEMSELVES, and not on the Pets' Vet Needs.

The Owners' "personal spending" was for things that some of us felt were not
nearly as important as the Pets' Vet Needs.

[cassiesmom]

I think a good guideline for all of us who try to help in these situations is that instead of donating to the person -- get the vet information. Mail the check directly to the vet. Specify it is to be used for so-in-so's account. That way, there will be no question as to how the money is spend.

That's what was done for Bri. Catty1 researched it very thoroughly and a Pay Pal account was even set up. It's my understanding that the Pay Pal account is still active and the only thing standing between Bri's pets and the veterinary care they need is financing.

Begging for Money, without there being a really good and well documented reason

There were four really good reasons. One of which has been taken care of. Which brings me back to my original question: The balance in the fund is at $20 and nothing further can be done for Bri's pets until the finances are available? Correct? If there are not going to be any more donors, what happens to the monies in the account currently?

[dogzr#1]

Okay I haven't read thru all the posts, but I have to clear something up involving the $90 outfit. She got $106 for her birthday, from her mom, dad and Grandpa. She told me she wanted to use the money to get Lily spayed but her mother wouldn't let her 'waste' her birthday money on her animals. Her Mom got mad that she (Bri) wanted to get her bettas a new tank. So I'm sure Bri wanted to help Lily and Skye to get spayed, but her mother wouldn't allow it.

I know many people have PMed Bri and haven't gotten a reply, and I have yet to see Bri online either. I won't say anything more until I get her consent. I don't think she'll appreciate it if I went around telling part of her life.

[Vela]

That's all well and good if that's the truth, but in that case, since her mother won't "allow" her to use her birthday money on the animals, and her mother will not pay for the animals, then for the sake of the animals they need to be rehomed to someone who will put their needs above human wants and get them proper care, rather than continuing down this path. If this is all true then the pets need to come first, not Briana's wants and desire to have them. They are NOT coming first, they are not getting adequate care. The money IS there, it's just not being used appropriately for whatever reason. You can make all the excuses you like for her, it does not change the fact that if they cannot or will not provide proper medical care for so many pets, then some or all need to be rehomed to allow for proper care.

Yeah that sucks, but sometimes doing the right thing for the animals sucks for us. This is not a sudden emergency, this is routine care that people need to do for animals they bring into their lives. It didn't come out of nowhere and if they can afford cell phones, new cameras, birthday money, cigarettes, eating fast food often as Briana has claimed, and rental of a computer, as well as internet, they could have set aside 5-10 dollars a month for the animal needs. If her mom does not WANT to care for the animals, they need to go to a home that will.