Oh Great! ALL the "Donation to Roxyluvsme13" threads have been DELETED!

[shais_mom]

ugghhhhh...this is anoying!! why erase something just because people are voicing their opinions??

b/c it wasn't what she wanted to hear -
She wanted to hear - oh sure we'd love to donate - AGAIN.
like the ATM ya know - I have more to say on this subject
but I have a feeling that THIS thread's going to be deleted so I'm not going to waste my time - PM me if your that interested.
I was just given the suggestion by a smart person -
that maybe the thread should be put back up and padlocked - so that in a month and she's asking for money again - we can bring it back up...

[caseysmom]

Sounds like a good idea to me. It is starting to feel like a scam and I feel like her Mom is talking her into preying on the sympathetic animal lovers of this board.

[shais_mom]

Sounds like a good idea to me. It is starting to feel like a scam and I feel like her Mom is talking her into preying on the sympathetic animal lovers of this board.

I totally agree - b/c of her comment - My mom 'refused' to allow me to spent it on the animals - buy something for yourself she said - what about all the POTC stuff? - she threw a fit when her mom said she was going to get RID of the animals - why not throw a FIT for the same thing?
I know a lot of people think 'she's a child- leave her alone - its her mom's decision' but I think in this case - she knew full well what she was doing.

[IRescue452]

I must have missed all this completely. And I'm glad I did.

[Miss Z]

I'm sorry, but I don't see why there's a need for this thread. This would be better done by PM for those that wish to b*tch, in my own personal opinion.

Of course, I have been away from PT for the past week so I cannot comment on anything that has happened in that time, but whatever uproar has resurfaced itself in this very tiresome situation certainly does not need to be stewed over any more than necessary.

I really hope we can bury this arguement once and for all.

[sasvermont]

I am one of those folks, completely in the dark. I missed all the posts about this hot topic. I am ok with that.

I'm going back to sleep now!

[zippy-kat]

I'm sorry, but I don't see why there's a need for this thread. This would be better done by PM for those that wish to b*tch, in my own personal opinion.

Normally, I'd agree. But, in this instance, I believe there's much more to it than just "b*tching." People deserve to know the attitude(s) of the parties involved. More than that, they need to see the actions (or, lack thereof) taken by the one soliciting donations.

In this case, I believe that one of the helpers ended up pretty surprised by the actions of the solicitor. For that reason alone, I think the thread should've stayed. It speaks volumes.

Miss Z, I fully respect you and your opinions, but as you said, you've been gone for awhile and missed the thread(s) that this one pertains to. If you'd read those and/or if you'd contributed funds, I think you'd feel differently.

And, for what it's worth, this is my first and last post on the topic.

[Miss Z]

Normally, I'd agree. But, in this instance, I believe there's much more to it than just "b*tching." People deserve to know the attitude(s) of the parties involved. More than that, they need to see the actions (or, lack thereof) taken by the one soliciting donations.

In this case, I believe that one of the helpers ended up pretty surprised by the actions of the solicitor. For that reason alone, I think the thread should've stayed. It speaks volumes.

Miss Z, I fully respect you and your opinions, but as you said, you've been gone for awhile and missed the thread(s) that this one pertains to. If you'd read those and/or if you'd contributed funds, I think you'd feel differently.

And, for what it's worth, this is my first and last post on the topic.

Thank you, zippy-kat, and Phred too. It's only that I just saw the title of this thread and thought 'uh-oh', then opened it to find a medley of rather spiteful comments with a good helping of these > . As Briana and I get on rather well, you can imagine that I was naturally rather appalled and felt the need to, as calmly as possible, try to curb something that could have grown into a public bashing. I'm sure most people here can understand that.

If someone wouldn't mind, I would appreciate it if someone could PM me a summary of what has happened recently. I like to know both sides of a story. Thanks in advance.

[Alysser]

Thank you, zippy-kat, and Phred too. It's only that I just saw the title of this thread and thought 'uh-oh', then opened it to find a medley of rather spiteful comments with a good helping of these > . As Briana and I get on rather well, you can imagine that I was naturally rather appalled and felt the need to, as calmly as possible, try to curb something that could have grown into a public bashing. I'm sure most people here can understand that.

If someone wouldn't mind, I would appreciate it if someone could PM me a summary of what has happened recently. I like to know both sides of a story. Thanks in advance.

Yeah, I agree. I really don't know enough that happened to fully make a good thought-out opinion. If anyone can PM a summary I'd appreciate it. I mean, I saw some of the threads, but that was a few months ago. I didn't see any recent updates or what not.

I agree with Zara. It's only instinctive to curb an arguement between someone you get along with fairly well with but..I don't know what happened.

[Alysser]

Well I found out the whole story and I find it utterly ridiculious. I was pretty shocked when I read what happened, and I just don't even know how to express the anger. To be rude to people who are giving money to you is just sick to me. Asking for the donations is a load of cr*p to me, if she can afford a $90 outfit. Wow, just...wow. I know on some of the threads, I was on her side. But this brings me into a whole new light. I guess I should stop skimming threads and start actually reading all the posts, because that's exactly what I did. I never read any of this stuff she was doing. Wow do I feel stupid now. If you think about it, this really does all sound like a big scam. Not to mention, I am 110% on the other side now.

[Cinder & Smoke]

... why there's a need for this thread.

... this very tiresome situation certainly does not need to be
stewed over any more than necessary.

I think we need to let some folks know that this Begging for Money,
without there being a really good and well documented reason,
will be met with resistance.

And folks who start to deceive or misrepresent the truth, will be taken to task.

This isn't the first time the Truth has been *stretched* - we should take some steps
to be certain it doesn't happen too many more times in the future.

/s/ Phred

[critter crazy]

I think we need to let some folks know that this Begging for Money,
without there being a really good and well documented reason,
will be met with resistance.

And folks who start to deceive or misrepresent the truth, will be taken to task.

This isn't the first time the Truth has been *stretched* - we should take some steps
to be certain it doesn't happen too many more times in the future.

/s/ Phred

Exactly!! There are way too many good hearted people here, who we dont want to see taken Advantage of!!

[dukedogsmom]

Sounds like a good idea to me. It is starting to feel like a scam and I feel like her Mom is talking her into preying on the sympathetic animal lovers of this board.

Which is why I never gave any money. This one just didn't feel right.

[Vela]

I have to agree with you Phred. Most of the time I think argumentative threads are fine to just go by the wayside, but this one in particular was a sore spot for MANY. In light of recent events, it's even more important for those who didn't see it, or those who may join at a later date, to understand what happened so they don't put forth their hard earned dollars in vain.

[lizbud]

I did not read all the posts in that thread, but I read enough to know
what went on. It was pitiful. Sounded like a scam to me. I never posted
in the thread but it shouldn't be deleted. I hope someone has passed all this info to Karen & Paul. It it's taking advantage of good hearted people and
lying about things, Karen should know. Couldn't that get someone banned?