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    I'm SO happy that this other vet found and fixed Tiger's problem! Tiger must be very relieved to be able to breath normally again, and I'm sure you are as well.

    Sometimes a specialist or even another set of eyes looking at the problem can make all the difference. While having to see yet another vet for the same problem can be very frustrating, sometimes the results are so well worth it!

    I'm very very glad that Tiger is now back to his old playful self!

    RIP Dusty July 2 2007 RIP Sabrina June 16 2011 RIP Jack July 2 2013 RIP Bear July 5 2016 RIP Pooky June 23 2018. RIP Josh July 6 2019 RIP Cami January 6 2022

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    results are back...

    Hi everybody. Well, the vet just called. The results show squamous carcinoma. I'm so sad. Tiger is doing so well and I'm trying not to let myself think about what the future holds.
    The vet said there is the option of chemo but he didn't recommend it. He said it is sometimes effective with dogs but rarely with cats.
    Does anyone know of any natural remedies that might prolong Tiger's life? Any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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    Oh, sweetheart! This is heartbreaking for me, even more so for you - my mom's beloved Pyka had nasal surgery for blocked breathing...and it came back cancerous. And this doesn't often happened - I so hoped that where Pyka lost the battle, Tiger would come through fine!

    1. Email or call this vet and ask him for the name of an animal oncologist. This may not cost a lot, since your vet has the medical records on Tiger and could send them to this person for another opinion. Specialists have a different slant on things - for example, just how chemo might affect Tiger.

    2. Is this a single tumour, and some cancer is left behind?

    3. PM Craftlady - she has a lot of knowledge about herbal stuff that WORKS.

    Pyka had nasal lymphoma; Tiger has squamous cell carcinoma. There MIGHT be a difference in prognosis.

    Above all, don't feel guilty - there is NO way to spot nasal cancer without a biopsy or surgery and actually testing the material.

    You get hold of an oncologist - I'll go Google....


    HUGS!
    "Do or do not. There is no try." -- Yoda

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    EG - I've found no news of this being CURED...but there are quite a few kitties that have good quality life for a few more years. Kind of like 'kidney' kitties - they don't get cured, but with some treatment, they can carry on good lives.

    It's a matter of managing the illness, it seems - and hey, Tiger just might fool all of us!

    HUGS!

    Link #1 - I will copy and paste some of the pertinent paragraphs below.

    http://www.fabcats.org/cancer1.html


    "There are many different types of cancer, and they are often classified according to the origin of the type of abnormal cell they contain. Thus cancers known as ‘carcinomas' and ‘sarcomas' are solid tumours that arise from various different tissues, whereas ‘leukaemias' are cancers that affect the bone marrow where blood cells are produced and often cause large numbers of abnormal cells to appear in the blood stream. ‘Lymphoma' is a solid cancer caused by the growth of abnormal lymphocytes – a type of white blood cell that can also be found in tissues and is part of the immune system.

    When cancer is diagnosed, a natural and common reaction is ‘What have I done wrong?' or ‘What could I have done to have prevented this from happening?' While these are entirely natural responses when we first learn that our pet has cancer, it is important to remember that in the vast majority of cases we don't know what will have lead to the development of the cancer, and therefore it would have been impossible to prevent.

    Although a diagnosis of cancer is never good news, it is not necessarily a ‘death sentence' for a cat. Many treatment options are available for cancers (these are covered in more detail in Cats and Cancer 2). Not all cancers respond well to therapy and the choice of whether or not to treat, and what to treat with, will depend on many factors. Some forms of therapy are only available at specialist centres, and your vet may suggest that he or she refers you to one of these places.

    In many cases, appropriate treatment of cancer can result in a significant prolongation of very good quality of life for cats. Treatments can carry side effects, but your vet will be aware of these, and the aim is always to improve the quality of life of affected cats, and not to cause any increased suffering through the treatment. Generally, with careful monitoring and assessment, significant side effects can be avoided.

    It is not always right to treat a cat with cancer, and the cat's quality of life must always be the overriding concern – it is worthwhile discussing the options available in depth with your vet before arriving at any decision.

    Squamous cell carcinoma

    Squamous cell carcinoma affecting the tongue (one of the more common oral tumours)

    Squamous cell carcinoma is a cancer of the skin. Exposure to sunlight is one trigger-factor for this cancer and it is seen more commonly in white cats, and cats kept in hot sunny countries. The tumour commonly affects the nose or the ears and can initially look like a small scratch or wound that won't heal. Spread (metastasis) of these tumours is uncommon but local lymph nodes are sometimes affected.

    Early treatment of these tumours can be very successful and most commonly involves surgical removal or radiation therapy. For some tumours affecting the superficial layers of the skin local radiation therapy (applied via a probe touched onto the skin) can be very effective. The response to drug therapy (chemotherapy) is generally not very good. For some affected cats, an alternative to conventional surgery may be ‘cryosurgery' where the affected tissue is frozen using liquid nitrogen applied via a special probe, although conventional surgery and/or radiation therapy are usually the preferred option."

    I'll find Part 2, as it deals more with treatments.
    Last edited by Catty1; 08-01-2007 at 11:46 PM.
    "Do or do not. There is no try." -- Yoda

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    Here is Part 2 - it is fairly general information, but worth a look.
    http://www.fabcats.org/owners/infosh...r/cancer2.html

    Also - what I have read so far indicates that SCC does not spread like other cancers. Might be hopeful.

    1. This one is new...may be hard to find, and the cancer has to be on or near the skin. So far.

    "Photodynamic therapy (PDT) has been shown to be an effective treatment modality for surface-oriented neoplasms of the skin, respiratory, gastrointestinal, and urogenital systems. The purpose of our study was to assess the safety and efficacy of PDT using Photofrin in the treatment of squamous cell carcinomas of feline facial skin."

    2. There are several chemotherapy drugs that have been studied for the treatment of SCC in cats. The likelihood of a patient experiencing meaningful tumor shrinkage with chemotherapy is less than 10%, but the tumor may shrink a small amount or stop growing for a time. Chemotherapy for this type of cancer is typically given once every 3 weeks, starting with 2 treatments and then determining whether there is benefit of further therapy.
    Chemotherapy is generally well tolerated with some cats experiencing mild side effects that usually go away without treatment. Less than 5% of cats experience severe side effects that would require hospitalization and supportive care.

    3. The use of nonsteroidal antiinflammatory drugs may be useful for cats with SCC. These drugs (meloxicam and piroxicam) may help to slow tumor growth, especially when combined with radiation or other chemotherapy drugs. In addition, these medications are also potent pain relievers.

    4. Another good link: http://www.zzcat.com/resources/treatment.htm

    Near the bottom of the page there is a long list of alternative treatments...they stress talking with your vet.

    REMEMBER - PT People will help if you need it. iMOM.org also helps with non-normal surgeries. Maybe just peek at their website and see if you would qualify. If you don't need it, great - and if you do, you will have a heads-up already about it.
    "Do or do not. There is no try." -- Yoda

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    I'm so sorry to hear that Tiger's results say he has cancer. I sure hope that you'll be able to keep him comfortable and that he'll be able to live many more years with you. Lots of prayers and positive thoughts are being sent his way.

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    Man! I hate to hear it is cancer... He looks like he is feeling so much better and he is such a handsome boy. My prayers will be with you and him in hopes of of finding some way to treat this.

    Special Needs Pets just leave bigger imprints on your heart!

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