Looking for advice

[NoahsMommy]

OK, if there is no way for you to report her safely, they why don't you take care of the animals? I know it sucks, but if you feel that strongly that they aren't taken care of, then maybe you need to be the one to SHOW them HOW to do this by actually doing it - maybe for forever.

I know its a sucky option, but what are the alternatives? Let the animals just live there unprotected? Or let the niece get the blame if she's turned in??

You are in a tough spot, I completely agree with you. Bless you for caring and wanting to DO something about it.

Although - allowing something to go on that isn't right is the SAME as doing it yourself. There comes a time when you have to decided between being "friends" with someone and doing whats right.

I wish you lots of luck in your decision on what to do, I appreciate that it IS a very hard one when family is involved. (((hugs)))

[nancyweNW]

If is was a child in the same situation, they'd be out of there and the same should go for this poor baby. Report her or take the dog, whatever needs to be done to get her in a safe place.

[tikeyas_mom]

so if she couldnt afford to get her cat spayed, i am assuming that her newest dog isnt spayed either? Same goes for her two new kittens?? Just wait till her newest male kittens start to spray all over the house, then what is she gunna do? I would be just beside my self if this were my sister, I would honestly probably get into a huge fight with her about her neglect.. By the sounds of it I wouldnt even trust her with a goldfish, and thats just pathetic.. Its amazing how you and your sister can be so different with your pets, You are such a great dog/pet owner, and she.... well.. you said it your-self isnt treeating her animals very well... I really dont know what eles you could do, other then report her... I'm really sorry you have to go through this.

[Catty1]

If you PM me or someone with the facts, as crow noir said, we can do the reporting, and you can honestly say you didn't do it.

Don't make excuses for your sister - "she is really a good person". I am sure she is - but her actions with pets are deplorable. I wonder what kind of mother she is? You mentioned her 'taking out' stuff on her daughter if she knew you reported.

Maybe you can report it to a police officer and they can report it.

If your niece was being neglected, what would you do? Your sister wouldn't talk to you then either. SO WHAT? We're talking OTHER living creatures here.

She'll come around in a month or a year - and meanwhile, you will have kept more animals from a bad home.

I sure hope your niece doesn't get physically 'punished'...and I don't mean just a spank.

Your sister will not smarten up on her own...she needs a kick, and reporting this might do it. Stop covering her butt, and show her tough love. Nothing else has worked.

Sorry to sound mean - but I disagree with doing nothing.

[pitc9]

How sad... all the way around.
Sad for her pets that she's doing this too, sad because now that her kids see her treating animals this way chances are they will grow up doing the same, and sad for you because you are doing all you can to help and she doesn't realize it.

If it were me, I don't think I'd be able to report my own sister.

I think I would just take care of her animals the best I could for their own well being.

[wolf_Q]

I'm sorry to hear you're still having trouble with your sister and her pets. I know the feeling. My sister takes decent care of pets when she has them, but she keeps getting them then getting rid of them. She just got rid of her lab/border collie mix, she's talked of getting rid of the yorkie, and now she has another golden retriever puppy (when she's already gone through 2 goldens). If we had taken in all of the dogs she's had over the past 5 years (Syd is one of them) I bet we'd have at least 15 dogs. It's frustrating because there's nothing I can do about it, she never listens to me. I hope you'll be able to figure out something to help the poor dog. I don't know how it is there, but here its pretty much if they have food, water, and shelter that's about all the law requires.

[slleipnir]

I'm pretty sure she takes decent care of the kittens...but to me kittens/cats are so much easier to care for. They come to you when they want attention, you don't need to walk them, etc. Plus they have each other to play with. But with the dog she needs atleast 1/2 hour runs everyday with her energy level, and lots of attention. I don't know that they realize how important it is for them to get exersize. I tried telling her the reason her JRT went nutso was because he didn't have proper exersize. She doesn't listen. If she'd JUST let the dog out and take it for a short walk everyday, I'd be happy. I think the dog would calm down too. My mom thinks my niece is just making it up, but if you'd seen the dog I think you'd believe her too

[slleipnir]

If you PM me or someone with the facts, as crow noir said, we can do the reporting, and you can honestly say you didn't do it.

Don't make excuses for your sister - "she is really a good person". I am sure she is - but her actions with pets are deplorable. I wonder what kind of mother she is? You mentioned her 'taking out' stuff on her daughter if she knew you reported.

Maybe you can report it to a police officer and they can report it.

If your niece was being neglected, what would you do? Your sister wouldn't talk to you then either. SO WHAT? We're talking OTHER living creatures here.

She'll come around in a month or a year - and meanwhile, you will have kept more animals from a bad home.

I sure hope your niece doesn't get physically 'punished'...and I don't mean just a spank.

Your sister will not smarten up on her own...she needs a kick, and reporting this might do it. Stop covering her butt, and show her tough love. Nothing else has worked.

Sorry to sound mean - but I disagree with doing nothing.

I think she's a much better mother to her skin kids then she is to her fur ones. I don't think she knows how to handle her oldest (she does go out of control, but what 13 year old doesn't sometimes?)

honestly I'll try my best to make her listen and keep an eye on the dogs sanity...mom said she'd take her out sometimes to play with my dog and get some proper exersize

[slleipnir]

noahsmommy: She lives atleast 20 mins from me by car. I don't have a car. I live at home and my dad will no let me take more animals. I don't want anymore animals because I know I couldn't care for more right now. I can care for what I have now, and I feel thats it. If I had another young pup with that energy, I don't think I could give it the proper exercise along with my 2. I won't even walk my 2 together because Josie is dog aggressive and will bite Zeke if she sees a dog. The only way I'll want another dog is if I move to the country and have room for a huge fence. And to be honest, I couldn't afford 3 more animals.

If you ment going to her house, that's almost impossible without a car. I don't have the time to go out there once or twice everyday as much as I'd love to. I have a fulltime job and 4 pets of my own (which I know it's greedy, but they come first) I've gone out there many times and showed her how to train the dog so they can comfortably walk it. I've told them ways to keep it out of the cage without it being so crazy (obviously not listening there) I would LOVE to take them and give them a good home, but I know that it's not with me. She wouldn't allow me to take them anyway. Plus whenever I ask about her being in the cage she says she's only in there at night or when they go out. I can't honestly prove anything other then what I think and what my niece told me. (my niece that lies a lot)

as for the dog, she is spayed. The HS where she got her from will not release pets until they've been fixed.

as for the cats, I imagen she'll either give them up when she can't afford it, or she'llhave them neutered because they will spray everything. I just wish she'd stop giving them milk.

[IRescue452]

I wouldn't worry about the kittens getting milk. Not all cats get upset tummies from milk. It at least adds some nutrients to whatever cheapo food they are getting.

For now, so long as the dog is getting basic needs met and is spayed, try not to obsess too much because nobody is going to take the dog away from her. As you said, she'll probably get rid of it sooner or later. In the meantime, make an anonymous email tip to any shelter she gets animals from so they know not to adopt out to her anymore.