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    There is a saying, "Punish the deed, not the breed." I know there are others on Pet Talk who understand this issue a lot better than I do. If I were to have a dog I would have to take training classes in order to be the best dog parent possible.
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    And the "Anti-BSL" movement. (BSL = Breed Specific Legislation)

    Quote Originally Posted by cassiesmom
    There is a saying, "Punish the deed, not the breed.".
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    people need to realize ANY dog can attack at any time not just pit bulls and rottweilers. I have a 125 lb. rottweiler, golden, lab mix and she is the best dog I have ever had. she would only lick you to death. that's the only thing she would do. Everyone seems to be scared of her until they get to know her. She is very loyal and protective of us but not in a bad way.

    I love, love pit bulls and it sucks they have a bad rap. I hope to have one someday, rescued of course.

    I bet you if anyone met Ebony, Jadapit's pit bull she would change anyone's mind about pit bulls. I haven't met her yet, but I hope to someday since her and Jadapit and her other beautiful dogs aren't too far away from us. Just a couple states away is all.

    by volunteering at the shelter, I have met so many pit bulls and all of them have been total sweeties. I think any dog can attack at any given time.

    even a huge mixed breed could attack. I have never had a dog attack me. Just nibble on me a bit because they are puppies.

    there are pros and cons of each breed out there IMO.. but people need to remember people make them mean and bad breeding can, too. sometimes it isn't the people who make dogs mean, it is bad breeding.

    people need to do right by owning breeds like pit bulls, rottweilers, dobes, etc. everyone needs to do right by their dogs regardless of breed especially pit bulls because they have such a bad rap and keep them out of trouble because each mistake you make this wonderful breed pays their life for it. I hope I made sense here.
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    I agree!

    I agree that people shouldn't judge dogs by their breed! I think Pitbulls and rottweilers can be very nice dogs, and well-behaved as well. I think prejudice is VERY WRONG, whether in people or animals. I am glad people agree with me on this matter!

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    I think it's sad that people judge these beautiful dogs too. There are some pitbulls/rottweilers etc that are more aggressive than others, but then there are some of the same breed that are the sweetest dogs you could ever meet.

    I saw a show on Animal Planet once where a pitbull had just had puppies and she was nursing some baby kittens. I also saw a pitbull letting a baby cow nurse from her. They can be very sweet dogs, and they're pretty!!! My brother use to have a pitbull mix; she was very sweet and ever tried to bite/attack anyone! She was even friendly with strangers....but sadly someone stole her and we never saw her again. She was a brindle color...very pretty...
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    i agree

    yeah it's really sad that some people just judge pit bulls, dobes. ect by thier breeds. our nieghbors got a pit bull yellow lab mix puupy recently and she's a little sweetheart. she is still a little bratty sometimes because she's just a puppy but she would never hurt anyone. most Pit bulls are really nice animals and it's time for people to stop judging them by their breed!

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    Here is a lively (CLOSED) thread on the topic. I don't know that much about it but I am thinking there are other members of Pet Talk who understand it in a lot more detail. I have learned much about the pit bull from reading posts by Jadapit. I still think that if I were ever to have a dog (of ANY size or breed) I would have to attend training classes in order to learn how best to guide and direct the dog's behaviors (what I mean is, how I and the dog move and behave as a team). Otherwise I would be guessing and I don't think that would be good.


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    "That's the power of kittens (and puppies too, of course): They can reduce us to quivering masses of Jell-O in about two seconds flat and make us like it. Good thing they don't have opposable thumbs or they'd surely have taken over the world by now." -- Paul Lukas

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassiesmom
    There is a saying, "Punish the deed, not the breed." I know there are others on Pet Talk who understand this issue a lot better than I do. If I were to have a dog I would have to take training classes in order to be the best dog parent possible.
    I prefer 'punish the owner' not the dog. Misbehaved children and misbehaved pets are the result of owners not taking the time to teach their 'children' what acceptable behavior is in various situations.

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    Most of the pit bulls I've known seemed to be no more dangerous than any other animal. We like to think of our pets as 'family members' but the reality is they are animals and unpredictable. We can do a lot with training (the pet's behavior, as well as our own), socialization, pre-empting potentially risky situations, etc. but there is still that unpredictable element.

    I've known friends and neighbors with pit bulls and in every one of these cases, their dogs were put in their crates in potentially dangerous situations (i.e. large gatherings with unknown people, lots of little kids running around, etc.). They were very aware that they owned powerful dogs capable of maiming or killing if provoked.

    That said, as a mother of 3, I would err on the extreme side of caution when getting an animal from the pound or humane society. Yes they may know the history of the animal, but depending on their ethics, may not divulge honestly. My parents got a small dog from the human society and only learned later, after it had attacked the grandchildren, that it was not some little old lady's dog but rather had been taken from a home where it had been tormented by children.

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    I have yet to see a big attack from a well bred, well socialized, well treated, well trained dog. all those factors play into these attacks. where they from a poor breeder who fights? were they socialized young? were they abused? were they ever trained? i've yet to see any who were all of them and attack. then again no one wants to look at that.

    Theres a word or titkle for people against certain breeds and it's "Breedist", much like racist. For anyone interested i belong to this anti- BSL group and its full of updates and great people.
    http://community.livejournal.com/breedists_no/


    I have a "Punish the Deed, Not the Breed" Bracelet and believe in it very much.I work with "Pit bulls" (not an actual breed but a pin name for multiple ones) in the rescue, I've grown to love them. This guy, Ziggy, is our mascot- he hasn't been adopted in the three or so years he's been with us.

    Not to forget our little foster dog Velma Dinkley!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xVelvet_FuzzButtx
    I have yet to see a big attack from a well bred, well socialized, well treated, well trained dog. all those factors play into these attacks. where they from a poor breeder who fights? were they socialized young? were they abused? were they ever trained? i've yet to see any who were all of them and attack. then again no one wants to look at that.

    Theres a word or titkle for people against certain breeds and it's "Breedist", much like racist. For anyone interested i belong to this anti- BSL group and its full of updates and great people.
    http://community.livejournal.com/breedists_no/


    I have a "Punish the Deed, Not the Breed" Bracelet and believe in it very much.I work with "Pit bulls" (not an actual breed but a pin name for multiple ones) in the rescue, I've grown to love them. This guy, Ziggy, is our mascot- he hasn't been adopted in the three or so years he's been with us.
    Aw poor Ziggy. He's a very beautiful dog too, I'd adopt him if I could


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    seeing that beautiful face, it makes me so sad that no one can help him. God Bless You Ziggy. You are in my prayers.
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    Here we go again :-(

    I'm not sure if everyone heard about this but it just makes me so sad because it keeps happening. An 8 year old boy on the south side of Chicago was knocked down and attacked by his family's two pit bulls as he came home from school. The boy is in the hospital, critical condition, and you know what's going to happen to the dogs. I'm guessing the dogs' owner hadn't properly taught them.
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    "That's the power of kittens (and puppies too, of course): They can reduce us to quivering masses of Jell-O in about two seconds flat and make us like it. Good thing they don't have opposable thumbs or they'd surely have taken over the world by now." -- Paul Lukas

    "We consume our tomorrows fretting about our yesterdays." -- Persius, first century Roman poet

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    Honestly the last thing this breed needs at the moment is more bad press...how about a happy story for a change?

    Pit Bull Stands By Owner In Tanker Crash
    Loyalty Proven By Man's Best Friend

    EAST LYME, Conn. -- One canine certainly fulfilled the role of man's best friend on Friday.

    Witnesses described seeing a tanker truck barrel through the median into oncoming traffic, killing three people and injuring three others on Interstate 95 in East Lyme late Friday morning. The tanker struck a tractor-trailer and at least four cars and overturned.

    As chaos broke out on I-95, a heroic pit bull remained calm, sitting in the front seat of a tractor-trailer hit by a tanker truck. As the truck crumbled, the dog stood tall, staying beside his owner until help arrived.

    "I was calling to him, but he was just standing there and just guarding his person," said Phyllis Martino, a witness at the scene.

    The heroic dog stayed right by his owner's side, but arriving firefighters quickly rushed that badly injured driver to the hospital.

    That's when another hero was standing by to step in. Vincent Gagliardi said the pit bull was frantic as his owner was carried away. So, Gagliardi took off his belt, ran to the dog, fashioned a leash and got the dog out of there.

    "This guy was still sitting in the passenger seat, and there was diesel fuel all around, so I took him out of there," Gagliardi said.

    Authorities did not release on Friday any identities of those involved in the crash.

    Here's the video:
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