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  1. #1
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    Look at what this has come too.....

    People open their hearts, homes and checkbooks to help someone that ACTED like they gave a damm and as soon as it was off their conscious dropped off the face of the earth and left all kinds of havoc behind.

    This is horrible..... 100% horrible for everyone involved, people and animals.

    No one would want Ally to go to the farm, but EVERY opion has been looked into. It is terribly sad that her only option and hope for a normal life is to be in a barn, but it's better than the only other option. (being PTS)

    I think the best thing for everyone involved would be for her to go to the barn. Who knows, maybe she'll love it and flurish there!!
    You have given her everything and you've tried everything.

    {{{{HUGS}}}} all around.
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    So sad of a situtation. Jenn, you are doing beyond and above for Alley.
    You have every right to feel bitter towards the whole situation with her owner.

    I'm a firm believer that good things can come out of bad situations. Will keep good thoughts and prayers for you and Alley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenluckenbach
    I am sorry :-(


    Then Ally can have my 3rd floor with no chance of hurting another cat.

    You'll just have to give me time. And then I can be the one who is bitter.
    I would never ask you, or want you to do that. And I know you are sorry.

    I'm just frustrated and sick and tired, and I had hoped I could count on your for backup like you said I could.

    I'm sorry for making you feel like that. It's been a crummy week.

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    I have emailed Cats in Crisis and BF in PA for suggestions - they just have email forms! Darn!

    But I gave them Jenn's email address - I HOPE they can help her.

    PT PRAYERS, everyone, please!

    FWIW, Julie was also hurt because she LOVED Ally, and Ally would not let herself be loved....she would bite. "Why is she doing this?" Julie cried.

    If there are family troubles - with all the family has been through, that would not surprise me - maybe Julie CAN'T respond...

    Prayers to all involved.
    "Do or do not. There is no try." -- Yoda

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    I think sending Ally to a farm sounds like a really good idea. My guys would hate it as they are so spoiled and can't stand not having a lap to sit on, but for Ally it sounds like a really good solution. Wasn't she feral to begin with? I bet she'd enjoy having a farm to run around plus she'd still get to see people so she wouldn't feel so alone. My grandparents live on a farm and their farm cats always seems happy.

    I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this will all work out for Ally!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenn_librarian
    and I had hoped I could count on your for backup like you said I could.
    I will not go back on what I said.

    When can I come get her? Then she will no longer be your responsibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenluckenbach
    I will not go back on what I said.

    When can I come get her? Then she will no longer be your responsibility.
    I agree with Lizzie and Laura - I think Aly will THRIVE in this environment.
    Jenn Luckenbach I really don't think that Jenn is going to hand Ally over to and make her YOUR problem.
    I thought you 2 were friends? I wasn't even entirely sure she was talking about YOU until you made a point to show everyone it was you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenluckenbach
    I am sorry :-(

    I will relocate all of my fosters so Ally can come here. Nova and Lizzie and Carolyn and my beloved DaVinci will have to go live out their lives in our shelter. Cameo and Marilyn might find place in an adoption cage at Petsmart, but Cameo tends to hurt herself when left overnight in a cage. Hopefully she won't, this time. And Frazzle will just have to STAY at Petsmart whether she gets adopted or not. I'll pray that a foster home has room for the babies because they are sick and can't go to the shelter.

    Then Ally can have my 3rd floor with no chance of hurting another cat.

    You'll just have to give me time. And then I can be the one who is bitter.
    Taking yourself out of the fostering loop for at least the next ten years would be an appalling waste of resources. Although I believe in looking at each cat as an individual, at some point you have to look at how much money, space, time, and individual effort you are expending on one cat to the detriment of many, many others. Ally will live in a barn and cope. I have a gut feeling that she will actually thrive in such an environment, as long as she is offered good protection from the elements.

    Didn't you make this offer before anyone knew just how very aggressive Ally had become?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizzie
    Didn't you make this offer before anyone knew just how very aggressive Ally had become?
    Yes, but that doesn't make it an invalid offer.
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    Jen - No, you are not going to do this. Don't even think it. Seriously. I will find a barn home for her, and you will keep doing the wonderful things that you do with your fosters. They will not suffer because of one cat. I won't allow that either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizzie
    Taking yourself out of the fostering loop for at least the next ten years would be an appalling waste of resources.
    I 100% agree.
    ~Angie, Sierra & Buddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizzie
    Taking yourself out of the fostering loop for at least the next ten years would be an appalling waste of resources.
    I 100% agree.
    ~Angie, Sierra & Buddy
    **Don't breed or buy while shelter dogs die!**

    I suffer from multiple Shepherd syndrome



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    I agree with Angie x 2. There is no reason for Jenn Luckenbach to take herself out of the fostering loop.
    And I agree that it is so sad that this situation as come to this. People opened their hearts temporarily for these cats and I don't think Julie had any intention of it being temporary.
    And now people are bickering at each other.
    Such a sad story
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    Jen - I think we all agree that you sending back all your fosters and turning down all those future fosters the next several years just to accommodate Ally is not the answer and no one could possibly be angry at you for not doing that. It's obvious Jenn sees that too but being the one left holding the bag is hard to deal with. In her spot I would have probably made the same comment and then regretted it immediately because hurting you would not have been my intention, it's just the way I vent frustration. I think venting her frustration was all Jenn was doing and we can all understand why, this is a horrible situation.

    Jenn, I still say I support your decision 100% whatever it may be because you are the only one here who has had to deal with this aggressive cat for all these months and apparently Julie doesn't want to have a say in this any longer. Very sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizzie
    Taking yourself out of the fostering loop for at least the next ten years would be an appalling waste of resources. Although I believe in looking at each cat as an individual, at some point you have to look at how much money, space, time, and individual effort you are expending on one cat to the detriment of many, many others. Ally will live in a barn and cope. I have a gut feeling that she will actually thrive in such an environment, as long as she is offered good protection from the elements.
    ITA with these thoughts. To sacrifice literally dozens of cats, for one, is total nonsense. Give Ally a chance at the barns. As others say, she may thrive there.

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