Mom & Toddler Booted Off Plane

[lizbud]

As for the veracity of the media, "Dewey Defeats Truman".

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For the record,

My mom and dad raised us Catholic. that means-

We went to Catholic School.
They gave permission for our teachers to beat us.
We were taught, after mom instilled it into us to -
sit still, don't be obnoxious, behave, shut up and be polite.

Richard, I'll bet some people won't believe your experience in Catholic
school, but I do. Teachers were allowed to discipline students, and they
did. It was learn or else.

[Pam]

The woman and the toddler were on Good Morning America this morning. The little boy was a typical antsy toddler even on the show. Unfortunately the behavior of children not quite two years old is extremely unpredictable. It is almost impossible to reason with them when they are that little. There were enough other passengers backing up the mother's story for me and others to get an idea of just what went on. Apparently the stewardess realized the scene she was making and just went full speed ahead. I guess sort of a *do or die* approach. I hope she has been fired.

[RICHARD]

Richard, I'll bet some people won't believe your experience in Catholic
school, but I do. Teachers were allowed to discipline students, and they
did. It was learn or else.

I don't want to believe that I lived thru it. It wasn't very harsh because if you had half a brain, you learned the first time.
One time my friend and another kid tussled over a ball during recess.
The kid bit my friend.

The punishment was this....The nun/teacher put her left hand on the kid's left arm, took the pointer, which was a wooden rod about 3/8ths of a inch thick, in her right hand and proceeded to hit the kid on the back of the thighs. In front of the whole class.

They did about 3 spins and it was over.
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We had Phys Ed once a week. They brought in some turd to lead 200 kids in the basics- jumping jacks, push ups etc.

I was standing next to someone who was talking. The P.E. turd stopped the class, looked at me and asked, "who is talking?" I answered, "not me."

"Well, now you are, go to your classroom."

Amidst the "oooohs" I marched back to class where I had to take a ruler across the palms of my hand.

In those days some of the punishment was worse than the crime....but you thought once about screwing around and forgot it.

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I know that I sound like a anti-kid person, not true. I love kids and my nieces and nephews and friend's kids would rather spend time with me than the adults.

I do believe in corporal punishment, always tempered with an explanation and a well communicated reason as to why.

As I have grown older I do know that it does hurt a parent more than the kid when they get smacked, but I would rather see a kid take a few in the arse for walking into the street than to see a kid as a hood ornament of a Buick!

[lizbud]

One other thing was when the word got back to your parents about what
ever misdeed was done at school also brought punishment at home too. Double doom.

[columbine]

In those days some of the punishment was worse than the crime....but you thought once about screwing around and forgot it.

We certainly learned to steer clear of the kids from St. Pat's, because they understood that MIGHT MAKES RIGHT, and if you were smaller, you were fair game. Maybe they went on to do well on Wall Street, or in Pfizer. That's where and when we live nowadays, after all. I guess the lessons stuck.

Love, Columbine

[RICHARD]

We certainly learned to steer clear of the kids from St. Pat's, because they understood that MIGHT MAKES RIGHT, and if you were smaller, you were fair game.

Catholics have crotches too. A well aimed kick or punch works on any religion.

[columbine]

Catholics have crotches too. A well aimed kick or punch works on any religion.

Oh, sure! But (despite being Catholic) we weren't sent to the Catholic school, so we just went with our upbringing: fighting breeds fighting, avoid when possible, run & tell teacher, maintain the high ground - all that out-of-date stuff that sounds like it's from outer space these days. It's served me well emotionally, but I will admit to being rather - erm - financially challenged! However, people GIVE me stuff all the time, so it's worked out pretty well for me.

(You can give me stuff too if you want! But it would be majorly cool if you'd give my neighbors stuff instead.)

Love, Columbine

[RICHARD]

Geraldo had the mom, dad and the spawn on his show.

The interview starts.

Child is eating jelly beans on mom's lap.

G asks the mom some question, then asks the dad, "what did you think when your wife told you what happened?"

Dad: "What did you do now?"

Hmmmmmmm....

Jelly beans run out.

Kid starts to squirm. Mom passes kid off to dad, who is holding a book in his hand, probably to calm the kid down.

Geraldo is laughing at the kid's antics and asks the cameraman to get shots of the 'spawn' in action.

The last shot I saw was of the dad still sitting down in his chair, holding on to the monster's arm, to keep him from running off.

[sparks19]

Geraldo had the mom, dad and the spawn on his show.

The interview starts.

Child is eating jelly beans on mom's lap.

G asks the mom some question, then asks the dad, "what did you think when your wife told you what happened?"

Dad: "What did you do now?"

Hmmmmmmm....

Jelly beans run out.

Kid starts to squirm. Mom passes kid off to dad, who is holding a book in his hand, probably to calm the kid down.

Geraldo is laughing at the kid's antics and asks the cameraman to get shots of the 'spawn' in action.

The last shot I saw was of the dad still sitting down in his chair, holding on to the monster's arm, to keep him from running off.

And????


So where is the part where the kid is being bad? As far as I can tell the child is being a 2 year old. I am with you on the whole punishment thing.... but you wouldn't get a puppy and expect it to not be a puppy would you? Or a kitten and expect it not to be a kitten? you cannot expect a 2 year old to amuse himself all the time. I think seeing the child on an adult talk show is a poor way to judge the childs behaviour and I highly doubt that even with your mothers stern punishment that you were never fidgety at that age. So you stick a kid on an adult show where NO ONE is talking to him, he has NOTHING to do, and expect him to sit perfectly still and quiet? HAHAHAHAHAHA I don't even have kids yet and I know that's a pipe dream lol.

From what you say the child was not screaming, yelling, throwing a tantrum etc etc. he was being squirmy and didn't want to sit still any longer without something to keep him entertained.... pretty normal 2 year old behaviour and no amount of spanking, yelling, or other punishment is going to make a 2 year old sit still without ANYTHING for him to keep his curious mind occupied.

Heck.... most adults can't sit still without something to keep them occupied lol

[Muddy4paws]

At the end of the day she chose a career which would involve people of all ages, If this is a true story the stewardess needs to grow up and change her job because she obviously cant hack it.