Hi, Terrierman - yes, someone else addressed this earlier in the thread, and I admitted not posting any detail about it. Since the older guy in this was already on crack and various things, his goth 'membership' would have been darker than most, and was. Lots of other folks were on that same internet site, and were doing it for fun, if you know what I mean. A minority were on Jeremy's side, pulling for him after his arrest.

So I didn't mean to generalize, and I apologize for that. There are types of people that don't do well in Goth culture (or excel at it, however you look at it), and this guy was one of them.

It's like anything - you can't screen the determined extremists that will take things to heart and action.