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    Looking at this from a simple perspective... inside cat vs. outside cat is a very different thing weather they know the cat or not. As other have said, he was just acting on instinct. Don't judge him too harshly.

    If you plan on taking him outside, try and make sure your other kitty is INSIDE.

    King was good with cats inside, but outside cats were still fair game to him. (And this is a dog who loved everything under the sun and refused to kill... almost everything. I think he would have only chased the outside cats, but i never gave him the chance for me to find out.)
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    I'm so sorry for your loss. I've been in the exact same place. I just don't know which dog actually killed Dominique, who they had lived with for over five years.

    Duke was acting on instinct. He is not aggressive, he is not mean, he's not a bad dog. He's just a dog doing what dogs do. He had no idea he was about to break your heart. He reacted to prey, as dogs have done for 1000s of years.

    I would never let him near a cat again, especially outside. My dogs have learned the difference between inside cats and outdoor cats. An outdoor cat around here is a dead cat, doesn't matter who's cat it is, if they knew each other, if they were buddies...a cat outside is dead. Inside the cats are safe, but well supervised with the dogs. I don't allow any interaction. Dogs are kicked outside for extended staring at a cat. They are not allowed to play together, there is absolutely no chasing ever. If the dogs want to be in the house, they have to respect that it is the cats' territory.

    Again, I am so terribly sorry. PM me if you want/need to talk more.

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    I am so sorry! As everyone else was saying, Duke was only acting on instinct and you have to keep Duke and your other kitty apart. Bring one outside and the other stays inside. Hope this helps! I'm am really, really sorry about Loki. He was a beautiful cat...
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    OMG, how horrible for all of you. Duke didn't mean to do something awful, instinct just took over. I don't know what sparks prey drive, but I know my husky has plenty of it. Star grew up with ChowChow,my RB kitty, and never raised a paw to him. Rosie, my other dog at the time, was scared to death of the cat. But when we moved, they were in the kennel outside and Chow happened to walk through one night. They both launched off after him. They were so fast, I was just dumbfounded. Fortunately I was close enough to save him, but I couldn't believe how they acted. I never let him outside in the same area as them again. Now, they were all inside together again, and ChowChow was extremely cautious, but they never bothered him inside.

    I don't believe you can train prey-drive out of a dog, it's hard-wired into their genes. All we can do is be aware and do what we must to keep everyone safe.

    I am so sorry about your kitty boy, I hope your son can understand it wasn't something Duke had much control over either. It just happened.

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    You can't hold this against Duke - he was just a dog being a dog but I know how you feel having had to rescue a kitty from the jaws of my two not so long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crow_noir

    King was good with cats inside, but outside cats were still fair game to him. (And this is a dog who loved everything under the sun and refused to kill... almost everything. I think he would have only chased the outside cats, but i never gave him the chance for me to find out.)

    It is very sad that this happened with your cat. but it is also very
    unfair to put the "blame" on the dog for acting according to his nature.
    Yes, they are our pets, but they are animals & will act according to their
    natures. My dogs get along very well with my 5 indoor cats, but if one of
    the cats would venture outside (especially if the cat were to run across
    the yard) the dogs would chase & try to catch that cat. It would
    break my heart to lose a cat like that, but I would be the one responsible,
    not the dog or the cat.

    My youngest cat, Joey, got out the back door once when I was letting the
    dogs out into the backyard. cat saw the dogs approach & started to run.
    Maggie had already reached Joey & tumbled him head over heels before I
    could reach him. I did manage to get both dogs inside & then retrieved
    Joey off the 6ft fence. No harm, no foul, that time, but it could very well
    have ended entirely different.
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    Thumbs up

    Maggie - most of all, forgive yourself. Duke and Loki were such good buddies...there was NO way in a MILLION years you could have thought this would happen.

    Losing trust in a beloved dog like Duke is hard.

    Please do forgive yourself: 'It's not my fault; I didn't plan this, Duke didn't plan this. No way could I think this ever would have happened. It was a horrible and tragic accident.'

    And even if you could have predicted it - there was nothing you could have done, it was too fast. HUGS!

    You are a WONDERFUL FURBABY MOM. YOU ARE. ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT.

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    I'm not sure what you should do about this, but for now, keep them seperated! Someone mentioned a dog trainer - that sounds like a good idea. Could it be that Duke is jealous of you cuddling with the cats?

    Not all dogs get a chance though. One time when Fister was little, a dog was in lose in the yard, I don't remember what breed the dog was, but it was a fairly big one. Fister's mom had this dog cornered in no time. She was a tough lady!

    I'm so sorry what happened!


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    Thanks everyone. Today has been rough, but I no longer blame Duke. After the shock of what happened yesteray wore off, I realized that he was just being a dog, and it was not his fault. I love my dog. Things happen, that are well beyond our control, and we just have to accept that. Duke is and will forever be my big goofy boy.
    Maggie,

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    I'm so, so sorry about your precious Loki.

    I'm glad you feling a little better today. Is you son doing better today?

    Thank you Kay for the beautiful sig!

    "We can judge the heart of man by his treatment of animals"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadapit
    I'm so, so sorry about your precious Loki.

    I'm glad you feling a little better today. Is you son doing better today?
    he was better this morning, but he has been at Summer school all day, so we will see how he is once he gets back home.
    Maggie,

    I didn't slap you, I just high fived your Face!
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    Quote Originally Posted by critter crazy
    he was better this morning, but he has been at Summer school all day, so we will see how he is once he gets back home.
    Awe... poor kid. It's probably tough for him to concentrate at summer school with what happened yesterday.

    It's still so unimaginable about sweet little Loki. Play hard at the Bridge, baby boy.

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