Water v Coke

[wombat2u2004]

It was all over the news...and discussed at length here on PT.... Too much water

But it is far easier I suppose to believe that cola will disolve nails...(as for pouring on roads to clean them of ANYTHING....have you ever spilled a soft drink???...a sticky-icky mess!)

Love the thought that I am not responsible for my action.....my actions are fault of the advertisers!

Thankyou for that ES. I wasn't aware of that information, and have just checked it out accordingly.
I withdraw that comment with reference to same on my previous post.
Wom

[Cataholic]

Giselle, FWIW, your body does adjust to the water intake. I don't live in the ladie's room....and, I have heard that 8-8oz glasses of water is subject to interpretation...colas, teas, juice, milk...all can count towards it...(where in the past it had been only non-caffeinated products).

Everything in moderation, including moderation.

Wom- Jonah totally enjoyed his 4 ounce of orange pop last night, thank you very much!

[Pembroke_Corgi]

This is turning into an interesting discussion about advertising responsibility versus personal responsibility. I'm not saying that the individual should have none- in fact, I think people should be more aware than many people are now. But I also think companies should have responsibilities, too. Shouldn't it lie with both parties?

Advertising is very powerful, obviously, or we wouldn't be barraged with ads all day long (not just tv either- I rarely, if ever, turn on the tv set but I see ads on billboards, in stores, on cars- everywhere). I think some marketing is just plain irresponsible- like many ads for alcohol, or all kinds of junky food being marketed just for young children, who are just learning food habits they will carry for their lifetimes.

LH, you say that eating healthy is a choice, and if people are fat, it's there own fault. To an extent, I agree- but look at how much it costs to eat healthy! Are people who make minimum wage really going to spend their meager earnings on apples- $1.79/ lb at my grocery store last night, or are they going to buy, say 5 boxes of mac & cheese for the same price? In many cases, making the right food choices is vastly more expensive than making the wrong ones.

[elizabethann]

That's why I drink Cosmo.

OMG. I never thought I'd ever "meet" someone who drinks Cosmo! Cool beans. You rock.

[Pembroke_Corgi]

Of course added to this, is the fact that what they put into these products chemical wise, is usually covered up by references on their labels to a whole range of different names, mostly now coded....even something as simple as MSG has a range of names...this is all done to confuse people.
Example.......I cook a lot of Chinese food.......when I buy spices and the like, I check out what is in them......if there is MSG...I don't buy it.....if there is Ajinomoto....I don't buy it !!!! Why ???? Ajinomoto is MSG !!!!! Plain and simple. But does everyone know that ???? I have had so many people ask me what the heck Ajinomoto is !!!!! LOL

MSG isn't harmful to people- that is actually a myth! There have been numerous studies that show it isn't a health risk at all- though a small percentage of people may experience temporary symptoms from large amounts, but it doesn't require medical care.

http://www.hawaii.edu/ur/University_...URMay/MSG.html

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mon...tamate/AN01251

[Edwina's Secretary]

I was thinking....

yesterday I bought a carton of canned coke. I have houseguests coming and they like coke. In the grocery store the package began to leak...all over me of course.

I assumed it leaked because I had been driving my cart somewhat "hard" and the carton may have banged against the side...causing a rupture in one of the cans.

Now I wonder....if coke can eat through nails in a couple of days...how do they keep it in the cans???

Should I be worrying about the cans in my refrigerator suddenly disintergrating?

And why....if the iron I buy has a warning on it not to iron clothes while wearing said clothes...doesn't coke come with a warning...do not pour on nails?

[Cataholic]

I was thinking....

I assumed it leaked because I had been driving my cart somewhat "hard" and the carton may have banged against the side...causing a rupture in one of the cans.

I am thinking......you might need a warning sign on YOU- driving a grocery cart is serious business! Slow down, slow down (that is what Jones says when I drive too fast).

[BC_MoM]

A few summers ago I lost 15lbs JUST by drinking several bottles of water a day. I didn't change my diet or anything. It was awesome.

Sometimes I have troubles drinking plain bottled water, so I add iced tea, or crystal light (usually not the whole singles package).

[Lady's Human]

PC, To a point I agree with you on the expense, but take those 5 boxes of Mac and cheese, serve with something healthy and RELATIVELY inexpensive (for example a salad) and viola! a healthy, but inexpensive meal.

We were having a similar discussion in another forum, and the excuse there was time. Well, it doesn't take long to set up a week of lunches in advance. I worked plenty of 20+ hour days while avoiding McD's, etc. while I was running ops in the Army.

Frequently it comes down to the easy choice that's not the best for you, or the better choice that may take some time, effort and planning.

[wombat2u2004]

MSG isn't harmful to people- that is actually a myth!

Headaches !!!!! Sometimes migraines. In my experience. And what people usually complain of is thirst.
I know of a lot of people who don't eat anything at all with MSG in it.
Wom

[Karen]

Headaches !!!!! Sometimes migraines. In my experience. And what people usually complain of is thirst.
I know of a lot of people who don't eat anything at all with MSG in it.
Wom

Science doesn't know everything about why the human body reacts as it does, and why some people react one way to some things and someone else will have the opposite reaction. This is true of physiology as well as pharmacalogically. Take caffiene - one amount will put some people to sleep, keep some people awake, and have no effect on others ... but too much of it - like so many things - will kill you!

We human beings are tricky critters. When my mother was in college - during and just after the end of World War II, a professor of hers told her with firm assurance that everything there is to be known about the human brain would be discovered in the next ten years.

"Funny," she told me in probably about 1976 - "I think those ten years get further away every year!"

[Pam]

Yes I would agree to a certain extent Pam.
Whilst I can see your's and LH's point of view, being that of one accepting their own responsibility for what they consume, I still am against this continuous advertising and such.....particularly where small children are involved. I mean kids are absolutely bombarded from a very young age with all of this junk food advertising. The young are VERY impressionable.

Yes I agree that television is filled with commercials for foods that I would have never considered buying for my family. Junk cereals never ever entered my house. GAG! The problem, in my opinion, is not so much that the ads are geared to kids (which they most certainly are!) but the fact that the parents run out and buy that stuff because their kids ask for it. Honestly, (and this is probably a topic for a whole nuther discussion ) when did parents lose control?? When I was little I didn't have that kind of power over my parents. Why are today's parents so ready to get their kids anything they ask for, even if it is not a good choice? I imagine part of it is that they have also lost control of their own ability to make good choices. I may be showing my age here, but I have to say that things were better way back when.....

[AbbyMom]

Headaches !!!!! Sometimes migraines. In my experience. And what people usually complain of is thirst.
I know of a lot of people who don't eat anything at all with MSG in it.
Wom

Yuppers. Huby gets migraines from anything with MSG in it. Have to read the labels on everything.

[wombat2u2004]

Yes I agree that television is filled with commercials for foods that I would have never considered buying for my family. Junk cereals never ever entered my house. GAG! The problem, in my opinion, is not so much that the ads are geared to kids (which they most certainly are!) but the fact that the parents run out and buy that stuff because their kids ask for it. Honestly, (and this is probably a topic for a whole nuther discussion ) when did parents lose control?? When I was little I didn't have that kind of power over my parents. Why are today's parents so ready to get their kids anything they ask for, even if it is not a good choice? I imagine part of it is that they have also lost control of their own ability to make good choices. I may be showing my age here, but I have to say that things were better way back when.....

Yes....I do agree that things were much better way back when Pam.
As for parents losing control.....well I have my very own opinion about that, and that is that the world and society are more affluent than they used to be. Money doesn't seem to have the value to people now as it used to have.
If parents have a problem with their children, the first thing they do is throw money at that problem....it's quick and easy and available, and solves the problem in the short term.
In my day, my parents never had the money to throw at us. (And even if they did, there were 6 of us.....that would have been a real rumble !!!! )
Wom

[Pam]

Yes....I do agree that things were much better way back when Pam.
As for parents losing control.....well I have my very own opinion about that, and that is that the world and society are more affluent than they used to be. Money doesn't seem to have the value to people now as it used to have.
If parents have a problem with their children, the first thing they do is throw money at that problem....it's quick and easy and available, and solves the problem in the short term.
In my day, my parents never had the money to throw at us. (And even if they did, there were 6 of us.....that would have been a real rumble !!!! )
Wom

Right on the mark Wom! I agree with every word. I have watched parents in stores give in to their three and four year old children without offering any resistance at all. These are then the same parents, when called into school a few years later because of their child's behavior problems, who will side with the child against the teacher. What kind of adult does that make? (My I have really taken this thread off topic. )