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    Coke, McDonalds, BK, KFC are in no way responsible for obesity in the US.

    The responsibility lies (as far as food goes, there are exceptions who have no control over their metabolism) with those who have no self control and pay no attention to what they are eating. If you eat 4000 calories a day and sit on your butt, guess what? You're going to be overweight!
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    Coke, McDonalds, BK, KFC are in no way responsible for obesity in the US.

    The responsibility lies (as far as food goes, there are exceptions who have no control over their metabolism) with those who have no self control and pay no attention to what they are eating. If you eat 4000 calories a day and sit on your butt, guess what? You're going to be overweight!
    Well....I think differently mate. I don't let my kids eat or drink certain things, as I believe some things are harmful to them, particularly when they were young.
    Wom

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    Exactly my point.

    If you know something isn't good for you, WHY EAT IT? Occasionally is okay, but there are people who eat fast food 3 meals a day.

    There are other choices out there. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head forcing them to buy Coke, McD's, ad nauseum.

    It's not the corporations' fault. It's the person's fault.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    It's not the corporations' fault. It's the person's fault.
    Ahhhhhhhhh....maybe. What of all of the advertising these people do ???
    What of the all BS that they hit you with regards to nutrition in their products ? They don't tell us of what we really want to know, and that is, what harm it does us.
    Wom

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    Funny, I wasn't aware that Coke had claimed it was nutritious.

    There are nutraceutical products coming from Coke, 7Up, at al, but their claims have to be approved by the FDA.
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    I just had to add...I tried drinking the 8 glasses of water per day thing. It roughly equals 4 water bottles. I can't believe such a thing can be healthy when it makes you want to urinate ALL the time. Honestly, I tracked how often I had to "go" and I think it got as bad as going once per hour. No thanks. My petite frame can only handle 2-3 water bottles per day without reverting back to diaper days!

    I think we give blanket statements a little too much nowadays. 8 8 oz. glasses of water may do the average American good, but I can't handle that much. Water poisoning didn't seem a far off idea then, either... =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    Funny, I wasn't aware that Coke had claimed it was nutritious.

    There are nutraceutical products coming from Coke, 7Up, at al, but their claims have to be approved by the FDA.
    I never claimed it was nutritious either, what Coke gives you tho.....is only a certain amount of so called NUTRITION information...........

    Coca-Cola has announced that it plans to disclose the caffeine content on all of its beverages, as part of the company's rollout of expanded nutrition labeling in the US.

    The move, which the firm said is part of an industry initiative, comes just days after competitor PepsiCo announced it would label caffeine on its Pepsi drinks.

    Coca-Cola said the new packaging labels will provide the exact amount of caffeine in each serving.

    "The inclusion of caffeine content information is an additional voluntary step taken by The Coca-Cola System. In 2005, Coca-Cola North America introduced labeling that provides consumers with nutrition information for a standard eight-ounce serving as well as for the total of a single-serve package," said the company in a statement.

    The global drinks giant has already included caffeine labeling on its Full Throttle and Enviga packaging.

    It will roll out the new labels on its other brands, starting with cans of Coca-Cola Classic in May, said the firm. It will then expand to other brands and packages during the remainder of the year.

    The time at which the revised labels reach store shelves will vary by brand and by region as US bottlers use up existing inventories of packaging.

    Earlier this week, competing firm PepsiCo also said it also plans to clearly label the caffeine content of its flagship soda.

    "We're simply giving consumers more information," said PepsiCo.

    Under current regulations, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has granted caffeine generally recognized as safe (GRAS) status in cola-type beverages, to a limit of 0.02 percent.

    But the American Dietetic Association – as well as the Food Standards Agency in the UK – advises people not to consume more than 300mg of caffeine per day. Health Canada advises consumers to limit their caffeine intake to 400 to 450 mg per day. This advice is particularly aimed at pregnant women, who, studies indicate, have greater risk of miscarriage or babies with low birth weight if they exceed the 300mg barrier.

    A study published last year in the Journal of Analytical Toxicology stated that all drinks containing caffeine should display the caffeine content on their labels, to prevent those at risk from consuming too much of the substance.

    The research team analyzed the caffeine content of 10 energy drinks and 19 fizzy sodas, all widely available. They found all the fizzy drinks had caffeine levels well inside the 65mg per 12oz serving recommended limit for cola drinks in the US. Most energy drinks had levels in the high 60s and 70s for an 8oz serving.

    Dr Bruce Goldberger, one of the researchers, said he was surprised by the high caffeine content of some of the energy drinks. He pointed out that only four of the 10 were labeled with some sort of warning to consumers.

    "In certain people, consumption of caffeine causes serious health effects, such as anxiety, palpitations, irritability, difficulty sleeping and stomach complaints," he said, urging for the clear labeling of the substance on all products.

    For the past decade, the US consumer advocacy group Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI) has been calling on FDA to require the disclosure on food labels of caffeine content.

    Other food and beverage manufacturers could be prudent in following Coca-Cola's and PepsiCo's lead as a way to prevent future regulatory concerns.

    FoodNavigator-USA.com will next week hear from lawyers specializing in the food industry why caffeine is an issue of rising importance, and what manufacturers can do to protect themselves from imminent regulatory action.

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    Just think about it LH.........the ingredients.............
    Sugar !!!! In some drinks you can get up to 10 teaspoons of sugar in a bottle.
    What would you do, if you walked in your home one day and watched one of your kids gulping down the last teaspoon of sugar ???? TEN teaspoons he/she has just gobbled down !!!! I know what I would do..........the sugar would be soon out of reach. And yet.....on the other hand, it's ok for the child to have a bottle of coke !!!!!
    Aspartime (sp?) .... A real corker !!!!! Health problems associated with that one are vast !!!!!
    Caffeine..........addictive ????? Hey.....guess why Coca Cola uses it ????
    Phosphoric Acid........!!!!! That's gotta be not so good for the system.

    No mate.....I'm not buying into the argument or the proposition that someone drank themselves to death with water.......and if that were the case.......how often would that happen ????
    Would I dare to compare that event with the health damage that drinking Coca Cola causes, especially to young AND aged people worldwide ??
    Yes....I'd dare to compare and then choose !!!!!
    And as for my doctor.........well, I'm quite certain that if he told me that drinking coca Cola was more beneficial than drinking water, then I would surely go elsewhere.
    Wom

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    My grandfather, who disliked cola products, warned me about the evils when I was a child. Clean nails, tenderize meat, etc. He died in 1967. So those stories have been around quite a while....

    The logic escaped me back then as it does now...a product that will dissolve nails...if billions of people drink it on a regular basis...wouldn't bunches and bunches of them DIE??? Even as ineffectual as most governments are...would people keep drinking an ACID that ate the stomach???

    Didn't a woman in California (of course!) DIE recently from drinking too much water?

    Never made any sense to me.

    But then...any doctor who suggested to me that one practice was "more healthier" than another...well...I would go to a "more smarter" doctor right away!

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