As I mentioned earlier, even pubs/bars aren't sacred any more The fact is, there aren't plenty of places. Everything is geared towards kids or having them. Just look at the commercials, for instance. For that matter, look at the general section here. All kind of topics like breastfeeding, how dilated they were, have been posted there. It's brought up all the time that this is a family site. If I had a child, I don't know if I'd want them reading all that. A little off topic but trying to make a point.