Woman dies in hopital waiting room

[Edwina's Secretary]

Micheal Moore has just released his next waste of celluloid, "Sicko".

And again Moore chooses not to tell the story, he parks his moron arse in the middle of the it.

Just so we are clear....the opinion expressed is based on seeing "a clip" and what the accusedly-biased media has said...

Just so we are clear....

[RICHARD]

Just so we are clear....the opinion expressed is based on seeing "a clip" and what the accusedly-biased media has said...

Just so we are clear....

Let's see, MM walking and talking to the camera,
MM making statements that have no merit to them.
MM being MM.

I'd rather watch Oprah clips.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Let's see, MM walking and talking to the camera,
MM making statements that have no merit to them.
MM being MM.

I'd rather watch Oprah clips.

I just think reviews should be given by people who have actually SEEN the movie. I haven't so I won't make a comment on the merits of the movie or of MM's comments.

I have some videotapes of Oprah's show. Shall I send them to you?

[Marigold2]

The woman's boyfriend did not speak English? Was there anyone around that did understand what he was trying to say? Could the patient speak English? I would hate to think that she was ignored like that. I cannot believe that not just one but many people walked away from her and left her to die. Perhaps they thought she was drunk or on drugs. Perhaps they had more urgent cases they had to tend to first. I don't think we have all the info here. I work with nurses and dr's everyday and I have NEVER met any who would knowingly ignore a patient who is suffering and in pain. Lets wait till we have all the facts before we place blame. I have seen the Dr I work for in tears over a patients death or illness. And what of all the nurses. Did they all walk away from her as well, why, why would they do that?

[Catlady711]

And what of all the nurses. Did they all walk away from her as well, why, why would they do that?

That's sorta like asking why people murder, steal, set fire to things, beat people up, do drugs, etc. For many things there is just no answer, or at least not an easily acceptable answer.

[wombat2u2004]

That's sorta like asking why people murder, steal, set fire to things, beat people up, do drugs, etc. For many things there is just no answer, or at least not an easily acceptable answer.

There's no comparison.
A nurse has a duty of care.
Wom

[Marigold2]

Wombat you are correct. This is not on the streets, this is in a hospital. I have NEVER met a nurse who would act this way.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I don't think we have all the info here. I work with nurses and dr's everyday and I have NEVER met any who would knowingly ignore a patient who is suffering and in pain. Lets wait till we have all the facts before we place blame.

As described in the article...there is a videotape of the whole incident... of hospital personnel..including nurses...watching her...cleaning up AROUND her...ignoring her. Oh yes...they did call the police to remove her.

Not wanting to believe it doesn't make it any less real....

I have NEVER met a person who would abuse an animal...but regrettably I know they exist.....

[ratdogg]

I think this whole situation is a combination of many factors. I think the hospital workers get verbally abused quite often, especially in an inner city hospital. It think they have to have defenses for their own mental health and I think they are probably under appreciated. I think they may be over worked and I think they simply made a huge error. I think this is how real life is and nothing is perfect. I think this is just a sad sad situation. again, this is nothing but conjecture. mistakes were made. a woman died. there's always an urge to find blame, but maybe the blame doesn't need to be placed.

[Lady's Human]

Having sat in an emergency room with a BOC under 95% for a couple hours while the ER staff saw a grand total of two patients I can believe this happened.

After going through an entire albuterol inhaler (NOT recommended practice, but it was either that or pass out)and getting my lungs back to a functioning state, I left, called my doc, got a refill on the scrip and another scrip to assist, and wrote a letter to the hospital admin, return receipt requested. Got the receipt back, but never a response from the hospital.

Yes, I can believe it, and I can also believe that the hospital staff didn't care a damned bit.

[RICHARD]

I just think reviews should be given by people who have actually SEEN the movie. I haven't so I won't make a comment on the merits of the movie or of MM's comments.

I have some videotapes of Oprah's show. Shall I send them to you?

First of all you are asking me to admit to seeing an illegally downloaded clip....so I won't give you any more reviews.


CM,

The HMO I worked for was so into "getting people turned around" because of the fed payments.

They were so hung up on the DRG rules that they would literally ask doctors to get people out-plus, we had "Code Census" calls over the paging system....that meant the docs had to discharge patients because there were no beds in the place.