Woman dies in hopital waiting room

[Edwina's Secretary]

The woman who died was NOT an illegal immigrant.

Last summer I went to the hospital with the same problems she had. I am a blue-eyed blonde with good medical insurance. I was seen immediately. Admitted to the hospital for less than two days my bill -- just for the hospital -- was over $13,000.

I truely shudder...knowing what pain I was in...to think of this woman lying on the floor of the emergency room with a perforated bowel. What a horrible, horrible, painful, undignified death.

And the discussion turns to "these people"......

May you never find yourself one of "these people" who do not have medical insurance. May no one ever speak of you with the heartlessness and callousness with which you speak of others.

My grandfather was a poor immigrant. He died in hospital. He bled to death internally due to a botched surgery.

So I guess to some people he was one of these people...who don't deserve decent medical care....

[lizbud]

Yes Sara, the woman was not an illegal immigrant. It shouldn't really
matter one way or another, she was in horrible pain & died
on the floor in a HOSPITAL & nobody lifted a finger to help her.

I found this article in which her family spoke out about this woman's
life & what she meant to her family & those who knew her.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...ck=3&cset=true

[wombat2u2004]

[QUOTE=Marigold2]Is is true. These people sneek across the boarder, take our benefits, jobs, want to vote and get free medical and social sercurity. I have no pity for them at all. Yes the hospital was wrong, very very wrong. But so is sneeking across the boarder.

WOW !!!! If this is so called "Greatest Nation on Earth" stuff, then I guess there's no hope for any of us.(Except us downunder of course....we've got it right !!!!)
Wom

[RICHARD]

Having a 'little' experience in what goes on in a hospital.....

I have seen people act like total AHs in an ER.

This woman should have been seen IMMEDIATELY, that said-

I have sat in an ER waiting room to be seen myself. It did not bother me to sit for a few hours because my cold, headache or ???? was not life threatening.

I have seen parents SCREAM at nurses or sit in the waiting room pi$$ing and moaning about, "That person went before us and WE HAVE been waiting here for one hour!"

YOU STUPID COW, THe person who went before you almost cut his hand off with a power saw, your kid has an earache. That is why it's called an emergency room - emergencies go first.

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As far as insurance goes-

That is the reason, along with lawyers, that the healthcare industry is out of control.

To research and develop, market, test and finally introduce any medical device or medication cost more because of insurance.

I can turn on the TV set at any hour and see a commercial about "If you know someone who has fat ankles becuase they had to stand in line at the supermarket, call the law offices of Dewey, Cheatem and How!"

Last year there was a pacemaker recall-you should have seen the scramble and the lies told.

There was a little blurb in the news. Then the reps from the company were in the operating rooms to help change all the pacemakers they could, in the fastest time possible.

Why? just in case of a lawsuit.

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Back to the ER...

There are many people who come into an ER that do not speak english! There in lies one problem, Another is the universal RED CROSS. In many countries that signifies medical care......It's not like the Good Old U.S., where go see the specialist, often in another building, to get help.


The health care system is in shambles - this woman was not let down by the system, she was in an area where her life could have been saved. It's the people in that area, at that time who are to blame.

But overall the change has to come at the top-that means we have to kick the emm effing lobbyists who are in bed with the politicos in Washington.

They spread the money and the law makers introduce stupid laws that help the big med companies make more money.

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ALSO BEWARE THE FAT SCUMMY MAN THAT MAKES MOVIES ABOUT THE HCS.

[lizbud]

Richard. This womans' only crime was not having medical insurance.

She was still a human being and in severe pain, I would imagine.

Who committed the greater crime, her ,or the hospital staff of King/Drew?


p.s. And what does Michael Moore have to do with this?

[RICHARD]

Richard. This womans' only crime was not having medical insurance.

She was still a human being and in severe pain, I would imagine.

Who committed the greater crime, her ,or the hospital staff of King/Drew?


p.s. And what does Michael Moore have to do with this?

I accused no one of crime or being a criminal. She should have been seen immediately, insurance or not.

I do blame the AHs in the ER for not treating this woman-the HCI has placed the emphasis on paperwork, not patients.

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Micheal Moore has just released his next waste of celluloid, "Sicko".

And again Moore chooses not to tell the story, he parks his moron arse in the middle of the it.

[lizbud]

Richard,

I meant nothing personal at all in my comments, just used your name to
point out that it's useless to blame the insurance industy, or lawyers, when
this hospital's staff failed to do their jobs. I think you said it best here.

"The health care system is in shambles - this woman was not let down by the system, she was in an area where her life could have been saved. It's the people in that area, at that time who are to blame."

[Edwina's Secretary]

Micheal Moore has just released his next waste of celluloid, "Sicko".

So you've seen it RICHARD??????? What was your least favorite part?

[RICHARD]

So you've seen it RICHARD??????? What was your least favorite part?

taking emergency workers to Cuba to prove that they can get 'better' care.

Of course xuncle Fidel will roll out the red carpet for them, Please.

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Liz,

Did you know that there are "laws/rules" set up that limit the time that you spend in a hospital for any illness?And if you develop complications from that illness and overstay the insurance company will not pay?

Also, at the HMO I worked at, It was known that the docs HAD to discharge sick people because the hospital would not get paid.

There are some OB/GYNs who refuse to deliver babies because malpractice insurance is too costly.

I guess you haven't seen any commercials asking for sick people to call a toll free number to get in on a class action lawsuit?

Companies like Merck, Baxter U.S. Surgical spend thousands of dollars on the "HILL" trying to get exemptions to their products. And when they are put into circulation and fail the lawyers take over and the costs are passed on to the consumers.

BTW, Please don't ask, I do not know what I am talking about.

[Edwina's Secretary]

But did you see it RICHARD?

[RICHARD]

But did you see it RICHARD?

I saw a clip. not interested in Hi School Journalism.

[lizbud]

Richard, As one who has worked inside the hospital "system" for a long
time, I would think you have a lot to say about what goes on behind
the scenes. I've never had trouble with hospital care, but I've always had
insurance coverage too.

[lizbud]

I wonder if Sicko will win as many awards as his last film? He can always
get people talking about any subject thats for sure.

[cassiesmom]

Actually, they come in for everything from simple colds to more. My point was to say that's one of the things bogging down the ERs.

Yep and the government in Illinois wants to control costs by decreasing services available to this population - closing hospitals, clinics and a large extended care program. Tell me Governor, where are these people going to get their care if these facilities are closed? Grrr, grrr, don't get me started on this topic because it makes me so MAD! When I was in graduate school one of the ongoing questions was - is health care a right, or a privilege? How are people going to get the care and services they need, who will provide it and who will pay for it? No easy answers. But what we're doing now isn't working.

[RICHARD]

Richard, As one who has worked inside the hospital "system" for a long
time, I would think you have a lot to say about what goes on behind
the scenes. I've never had trouble with hospital care, but I've always had
insurance coverage too.

It takes one incident like this to erase thousands of times where people have taken an extra step to insure someone's health.

Here is another tidbit about healthcare.

Should you ever have a problem in a hospital setting, for example, there is an error in what medicine you are given-either the wrong one or the wrong amount- you might have a reaction..


THAT is what the note in your chart may say.
But, another form called something like an "Unusual Occurrence" report will be filled out and sent to a Quality Assurance department.

In big bold letters at the top of the form it states something like....

"DO NOT FILE WITH PATIENT CHART- DO NOT COPY - SEND TO QA DEPARTMENT"

It might describe a nurse at a shift change not paying attention to what they are doing..They make a mistake-but you have a "reaction".

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A resident surgeon who accidentally cuts a patient's vein, causing that patient to die on the OR table has the same form filled out.


The family is told that the patient had complications during the procedure.