Woman dies in hopital waiting room

[lizbud]

Yes Sara, the woman was not an illegal immigrant. It shouldn't really
matter one way or another, she was in horrible pain & died
on the floor in a HOSPITAL & nobody lifted a finger to help her.

I found this article in which her family spoke out about this woman's
life & what she meant to her family & those who knew her.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...ck=3&cset=true

[RICHARD]

Having a 'little' experience in what goes on in a hospital.....

I have seen people act like total AHs in an ER.

This woman should have been seen IMMEDIATELY, that said-

I have sat in an ER waiting room to be seen myself. It did not bother me to sit for a few hours because my cold, headache or ???? was not life threatening.

I have seen parents SCREAM at nurses or sit in the waiting room pi$$ing and moaning about, "That person went before us and WE HAVE been waiting here for one hour!"

YOU STUPID COW, THe person who went before you almost cut his hand off with a power saw, your kid has an earache. That is why it's called an emergency room - emergencies go first.

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As far as insurance goes-

That is the reason, along with lawyers, that the healthcare industry is out of control.

To research and develop, market, test and finally introduce any medical device or medication cost more because of insurance.

I can turn on the TV set at any hour and see a commercial about "If you know someone who has fat ankles becuase they had to stand in line at the supermarket, call the law offices of Dewey, Cheatem and How!"

Last year there was a pacemaker recall-you should have seen the scramble and the lies told.

There was a little blurb in the news. Then the reps from the company were in the operating rooms to help change all the pacemakers they could, in the fastest time possible.

Why? just in case of a lawsuit.

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Back to the ER...

There are many people who come into an ER that do not speak english! There in lies one problem, Another is the universal RED CROSS. In many countries that signifies medical care......It's not like the Good Old U.S., where go see the specialist, often in another building, to get help.


The health care system is in shambles - this woman was not let down by the system, she was in an area where her life could have been saved. It's the people in that area, at that time who are to blame.

But overall the change has to come at the top-that means we have to kick the emm effing lobbyists who are in bed with the politicos in Washington.

They spread the money and the law makers introduce stupid laws that help the big med companies make more money.

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ALSO BEWARE THE FAT SCUMMY MAN THAT MAKES MOVIES ABOUT THE HCS.

[lizbud]

Richard. This womans' only crime was not having medical insurance.

She was still a human being and in severe pain, I would imagine.

Who committed the greater crime, her ,or the hospital staff of King/Drew?


p.s. And what does Michael Moore have to do with this?

[RICHARD]

Richard. This womans' only crime was not having medical insurance.

She was still a human being and in severe pain, I would imagine.

Who committed the greater crime, her ,or the hospital staff of King/Drew?


p.s. And what does Michael Moore have to do with this?

I accused no one of crime or being a criminal. She should have been seen immediately, insurance or not.

I do blame the AHs in the ER for not treating this woman-the HCI has placed the emphasis on paperwork, not patients.

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Micheal Moore has just released his next waste of celluloid, "Sicko".

And again Moore chooses not to tell the story, he parks his moron arse in the middle of the it.

[lizbud]

Richard,

I meant nothing personal at all in my comments, just used your name to
point out that it's useless to blame the insurance industy, or lawyers, when
this hospital's staff failed to do their jobs. I think you said it best here.

"The health care system is in shambles - this woman was not let down by the system, she was in an area where her life could have been saved. It's the people in that area, at that time who are to blame."

[Edwina's Secretary]

Micheal Moore has just released his next waste of celluloid, "Sicko".

So you've seen it RICHARD??????? What was your least favorite part?

[RICHARD]

So you've seen it RICHARD??????? What was your least favorite part?

taking emergency workers to Cuba to prove that they can get 'better' care.

Of course xuncle Fidel will roll out the red carpet for them, Please.

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Liz,

Did you know that there are "laws/rules" set up that limit the time that you spend in a hospital for any illness?And if you develop complications from that illness and overstay the insurance company will not pay?

Also, at the HMO I worked at, It was known that the docs HAD to discharge sick people because the hospital would not get paid.

There are some OB/GYNs who refuse to deliver babies because malpractice insurance is too costly.

I guess you haven't seen any commercials asking for sick people to call a toll free number to get in on a class action lawsuit?

Companies like Merck, Baxter U.S. Surgical spend thousands of dollars on the "HILL" trying to get exemptions to their products. And when they are put into circulation and fail the lawyers take over and the costs are passed on to the consumers.

BTW, Please don't ask, I do not know what I am talking about.

[Edwina's Secretary]

But did you see it RICHARD?

[cassiesmom]

Did you know that there are "laws/rules" set up that limit the time that you spend in a hospital for any illness?And if you develop complications from that illness and overstay the insurance company will not pay?

Also, at the HMO I worked at, It was known that the docs HAD to discharge sick people because the hospital would not get paid.

I'm an insurance nurse. I can't avoid responding to this post.

Should you develop complications from an illness and "overstay" it is inaccurate to say that insurance will not pay. The reason that you are in the hospital changes. Example: if you have an appendectomy and then come down with pneumonia - you have stayed in the hospital because of the pneumonia, not necessarily the appendectomy. There are many factors that go into determining how claims are paid. The only situation I know of where a claim is outrightly not paid is if the patient's insurance is not effective - if their plan has lapsed. Otherwise it MUST be looked at before we can determine if it will or won't be paid.

Insurance never tells doctors that their patients must be discharged because the physician or hospital is at risk of non-payment. The decision to discharge a patient is ALWAYS between the physician and the patient. This is not the first insurance I have worked for and my previous employer had the same practice. We don't force patients out of the hospital.

The whole issue of how people without health insurance do (or do not) receive health care makes me so MAD! I'd like to climb up to the top of the Sears Tower and scream. That wouldn't do any good, though. I think this sad case just adds to the argument that something has to change.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Micheal Moore has just released his next waste of celluloid, "Sicko".

And again Moore chooses not to tell the story, he parks his moron arse in the middle of the it.

Just so we are clear....the opinion expressed is based on seeing "a clip" and what the accusedly-biased media has said...

Just so we are clear....

[RICHARD]

Just so we are clear....the opinion expressed is based on seeing "a clip" and what the accusedly-biased media has said...

Just so we are clear....

Let's see, MM walking and talking to the camera,
MM making statements that have no merit to them.
MM being MM.

I'd rather watch Oprah clips.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Let's see, MM walking and talking to the camera,
MM making statements that have no merit to them.
MM being MM.

I'd rather watch Oprah clips.

I just think reviews should be given by people who have actually SEEN the movie. I haven't so I won't make a comment on the merits of the movie or of MM's comments.

I have some videotapes of Oprah's show. Shall I send them to you?