Banned from grad for senior prank

[Cataholic]

Sparks19, forgive me if you feel I ever came across as if I were claiming I were perfect. Not than, not now, and I fear I won't be in the future, either. I have done some stupid things in my past, and while maybe not up to the level of some I hear about, stupid nonetheless.

BUT, I don't feel my imperfections mean I cannot hold an opinion. If that were the case, there wouldn't be a single person on the board, eh?

As for whether or not anyone has been rude or disrespectful to others in the past, I do feel that our own analysis of whether we have or have not been might not be the best indicator!

[sparks19]

Sparks19, forgive me if you feel I ever came across as if I were claiming I were perfect. Not than, not now, and I fear I won't be in the future, either. I have done some stupid things in my past, and while maybe not up to the level of some I hear about, stupid nonetheless.

BUT, I don't feel my imperfections mean I cannot hold an opinion. If that were the case, there wouldn't be a single person on the board, eh?

As for whether or not anyone has been rude or disrespectful to others in the past, I do feel that our own analysis of whether we have or have not been might not be the best indicator!

I never said your opinion wasn't valid.... only that there are a great deal of people in the "back in my day" generation that are very rude and ignorant.... not saying that you are one of them.... and as time goes by I REALLY try to be respectful to everyone.... of course that comes easier when dealing with some people than it does with others. I find being in retail that it takes a conscious effort for me to be pleasant to the nasty customers that just want to complain... but I try my best

It's funny.... I was just talking to an old friend the other day from elementary school and we were talking about all the things we used to do... man we were BUGGERS sometimes lol. We did some STUPID things. everyone does... it's called growing up now whether we bring that stupid behaviour into adult hood or leave it behind in our younger years is another matter.

[cassiesmom]

I graduated from parochial high school 24 years ago. (24 years ago June 10th, in fact. ) You could get in serious trouble really fast if you said or did anything disrespectful, not just to the teachers or principal, but to the librarian, office staff, bus drivers, custodians, basically any adult. Sometimes I wonder how I would get through high school if I were a student now. My sister-in-law teaches middle school and from the stories she tells I think things are just a lot different for kids. The Internet, media, the role of families and the function of a family in a child's life, things have just changed a lot. It seems to me that life just moves faster now than it did when I was in high school in the early '80s. I don't know if that is really possible, but it sure seems that way to me.

Edited to ask: Could it be that the expectations placed on kids are just different? Or, were my parents just tougher on discipline than the parents of today? I don't know. I can tell you I was a kid who toed the line and never took a risk. Even now, at 40, I'm risk-averse. Back then I wouldn't have dared to glue the trays together out of fear of the consequences.

[sparks19]

I also think what is considered rude has changed a little bit as well.... I mean of course foul language is ALWAYS rude.... although you do hear it everywhere today even on commercials.

But some people find it just as rude to be called ma'am or sir as it is to be told to pound salt.

[lizbud]

I graduated from parochial high school 24 years ago. (24 years ago June 10th, in fact. ) You could get in serious trouble really fast if you said or did anything disrespectful, not just to the teachers or principal, but to the librarian, office staff, bus drivers, custodians, basically any adult. Sometimes I wonder how I would get through high school if I were a student now. My sister-in-law teaches middle school and from the stories she tells I think things are just a lot different for kids. The Internet, media, the role of families and the function of a family in a child's life, things have just changed a lot. It seems to me that life just moves faster now than it did when I was in high school in the early '80s. I don't know if that is really possible, but it sure seems that way to me.

Edited to ask: Could it be that the expectations placed on kids are just different? Or, were my parents just tougher on discipline than the parents of today? I don't know. I can tell you I was a kid who toed the line and never took a risk. Even now, at 40, I'm risk-averse. Back then I wouldn't have dared to glue the trays together out of fear of the consequences.

You make some excellent points here. I do believe less is expected from
kids today as opposed to say, 25 years ago.

[caseysmom]

I disagree lizbud. My kids homework and schoolwork is leaps and bounds more than I ever had, and we both attended/attend public schools.

My daughter is a freshman taking algebra 2, I never got that far, not even close. Believe me they have to do a lot more in school than I ever did to get by.

[mugsy]

The kid needs to shut up and deal with the consequences. He did wrong, plain and simple. They didn't press charges. He missing walking with his class...he will live.

As far as school work goes...while they are moving faster for sure, but, it's very watered down...the bar is far lower. When I graduated in 1980, I graduated with a 93% average and it was a middle of the road "B+", now it's a solid "A". 75% was the lowest passing grade and for some teachers now, it's 60%...and still almost 1/2 the kids flunk because they are flat out too lazy to do the work...and they will tell you that proudly. I'm just sick to death of the disrespect and the "I am all important" attitudes that prevail in today's schools. Almost to the point of throwing in the towel and telling someone else to deal with them. Don't get me wrong, I love what I do and most of the kids I see everyday, but, the others make me wonder...

[caseysmom]

The work my daughter does doesn't seem watered down to me, in fact it makes me feel plain stupid

[lizbud]

I disagree lizbud. My kids homework and schoolwork is leaps and bounds more than I ever had, and we both attended/attend public schools.

My daughter is a freshman taking algebra 2, I never got that far, not even close. Believe me they have to do a lot more in school than I ever did to get by.

Oh, I wasn't talking educational development, I mean emotional growth.
personal interaction with other people, that sort of thing.

[caseysmom]

Oh, I wasn't talking educational development, I mean emotional growth.
personal interaction with other people, that sort of thing.

I know...don't get me wrong I want to strangle one of mine 90 percent of the time but my other daughter is a complete hard working respectful kid, it just depends and they have the same parent so don't blame it on me