Banned from grad for senior prank

[Edwina's Secretary]

Because mommy would pay for it...teaching nothing...

[sparks19]

Because mommy would pay for it...teaching nothing...

well then that's a whole different issue. In my house.... If I damaged something.... I had to pay for it. Hence, my strong resistance to driving.... you get a whole new respect for cars when you have to pay to have the dents and scratches fixed in your mothers car lol. At 17 or 18 years old he should at least have a part time job I would hope....

But I have still been unsuccessful in finding the news story about this particular case.... I didn't actually hear it on the news... it was on a talk radio show and they were discussing it with the mother... and then some other people (I don't know who they were)

[buttercup132]

Because mommy would pay for it...teaching nothing...

Why do you assume that? Nice way to view teenagers I know my mom sure as heck wouldn't pay for it. It's stupid remarks like that, that make younger people disrespect their elders..

[lizbud]

Why do you assume that? Nice way to view teenagers I know my mom sure as heck wouldn't pay for it. It's stupid remarks like that, that make younger people disrespect their elders..

It's clear you don't understand respect. It is earned with wise choices
in the adult world. The world owes you nothing but a chance to earn respect
for yourself.

[K9soul]

Things have sure changed since I was in school, and I graduated in '93. I can't even imagine speaking in such a way to anyone when I was a kid, but especially an adult, or rolling my eyes at them. Maybe it is just how I was raised, but I certainly thank my mom for that. I always try to be respectful, even if it is not being reciprocated. It will just get you a lot farther in life with people you deal with on a day-to-day basis.

[Alysser]

I know this is off topic, but there are some teachers I would just will NEVER like. I never have talked back to a teacher, I always try and be polite to them. Saying sorry when I knock something down, saying thanks when they help me with something I don't understand, but some teachers I just cannot STAND, like my spanish teacher. She has no respect for my class, so even though I show her some respect, I will never like her.

Yes, I guess with certain kids, they have a right to yell at them, and I fully agree alot of the time but when a kid is DOING nothing wrong we get yelled at anyway. I hate when one kid or several, not the whole class, does something wrong, we all get extra work or extra lectures. ALOT of teachers at my school(especially the spanish teacher) pick on certain kids and it annoys the crap out of me. Please don't say you don't believe me, because if you weren't in our class you would have no idea what I am talking about and I guess will never fully understand. You can choose NOT to believe this whole post but I know it's true and it's really sad, IMO.

[sparks19]

I have to be honest here..... While I cannot stand it when kids speak like that to their elders and was always taught to not speak that way to my elders.... my temper did get the best of me once in highschool.

This is gonna sound like the stories your parents tell you about walking up hill both ways lol....

I missed the bus one day.... I could have just said screw it and stayed home and had my dad write me a note the next day excusing my absence... but I decided to walk..... in the middle of winter.... and it took me an hour and a half to walk there. So I missed my first class and got to my second class late (which was a gym class) when I got to class my teacher was harrassing me about being late.... so I told her my story about missing the bus and walking to school from where I lived in the cold and snow lol just so I wouldn't miss school all together. She didn't believe me and told me it was a likely story.... LOL I got so mad... I said "You don't believe me? feel my F*cking skin.... you think I just liek to sit out in the cold and snow just so I can be late for class? are you a crazy lady?" I got detention LOL but let me tell ya it was well worth it.

Was I in the right? no but sometimes your temper just gets the better of you.... I am sure everyone here has had a time when they have said something they probably shouldn't have said ....

[Lady's Human]

Said something I possibly shouldn't have to someone in charge? Yes. All the time in the Army.

Said something I shouldn't have to a teacher?

Never.

Not attending graduation would have been the least of my worries.

[K9soul]

Yes, I guess with certain kids, they have a right to yell at them, and I fully agree alot of the time but when a kid is DOING nothing wrong we get yelled at anyway. I hate when one kid or several, not the whole class, does something wrong, we all get extra work or extra lectures. ALOT of teachers at my school(especially the spanish teacher) pick on certain kids and it annoys the crap out of me. Please don't say you don't believe me, because if you weren't in our class you would have no idea what I am talking about and I guess will never fully understand. You can choose NOT to believe this whole post but I know it's true and it's really sad, IMO.

Alyssa, I never agreed with teachers who punish a whole class because of one student's behavior either. Their philosophy was it'd make the rest of us get hard on the other kid and make him/her behave, but it didn't work that way. I know there are difficult teachers, I had some too. You'll find there will always be difficult people to deal with no matter where you are, supervisors, co-workers, neighbors, landlords, etc etc. You just have to do the best you can and get through it, while trying to keep a hold of your own integrity. You can't control how they behave but you can control how you behave. I would never say that all teachers are infallible or kind or behave the way they should. They are people just like the rest of us and there are ones who behave poorly and ones who conduct themselves in a more respectful way. All you can do is try to be the bigger person. It won't be too long and you won't have to deal with that particular teacher anymore. I know how frustrating it can be.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Why do you assume that? Nice way to view teenagers I know my mom sure as heck wouldn't pay for it. It's stupid remarks like that, that make younger people disrespect their elders..

I love the delicious irony of this statement.

The thing is...I was once a teenager. You have not yet been an adult yet. (If you are lucky you will be one day.)

You do not have the privilege of calling me or my remark stupid.

You earn that and you haven't done it yet.

And a part of growing up is learning to control your temper and your words.

Meanwhile, as long as I pay the taxes that purchase the trays and other supplies to provide you with an education, I earn the right to make negative remarks about people who deface school property, are rude and disrepectful to parents and school authorities.

Let me know how you feel in 20 years.

[catnapper]

Let me know how you feel in 20 years.

I often wonder what some people will think if they ever return to their threads here in 20 years.

I think the trouble here lies in the feeling of invincibility we've fostered in kids today. Don't tell them "no" as a child because you might hurt their confidence. Don't tell them they're wrong or you might hamper their creativity. Great, now we're stuck with a bunch of creative kids with cockiness off the scales. They don't think any law or rule can touch t hem. They'll get out of it by being charming. If that fails, mommy and daddy will come to the rescue.

My husband had an issue one afternoon with kids in his class. What they did wasn't as important to how they reacted when he told them to remain in their seats and focus on their books. One told him point-blank to "f*@%-off" and hubby sent him to the vice principal. 10 minutes later the kid was back WITHOUT a detention because the school is overwhelmed with bigger issues. They see they can lip off without repercussions so they try bigger acts of defiance thinking they can get away with it. Then one day he goes one step too far and is banned from graduation, he starts crying foul play.

Fast forward from the incident where the kid mouthed off to today. The same kid who told hubby to "f*@%-off" was banned from their schools' 8th grade graduation ceremony because he misbehaved with the wrong person watching, and that person decided to make the kid responsible for his actions by removing him from the ceremony. His mom was there, outside sceaming her head off because her precious son who never got into trouble wasn't allowed to walk in the ceremony. This boy who "never got in trouble" was ALWAYS in the principal's office. Always getting calls home with warnings. Just because he never actually got suspensions or many detenisons doesn;t mean he wasn't ever in trouble.

Funny how I read this last week and a VERY similar situation occured to hubby's student today!

[sparks19]

I think the trouble here lies in the feeling of invincibility we've fostered in kids today. Don't tell them "no" as a child because you might hurt their confidence. Don't tell them they're wrong or you might hamper their creativity. Great, now we're stuck with a bunch of creative kids with cockiness off the scales. They don't think any law or rule can touch t hem. They'll get out of it by being charming. If that fails, mommy and daddy will come to the rescue.

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I couldn't agree more with this statement.

They can't play tag or what ever other game cause someone might feel excluded or have their feelings hurt or fall down and go boom..... you can't hold kids back a grade if they are not progressing (although I do NOT see how pushing them ahead a grade to harder material helps them one bit) You can't give kids a failing grade because it hurts their feelings or embarrasses them.....

Basically you can't discipline kids anymore AT ALL. and kids KNOW it. And this goes for parents too.... you give your kid a swat on the butt and someone see's it and reports you for ABUSE.....

[Lady's Human]

You can't discipline kids anymore?

Damn.

And to think all this time the last 5 years that's exactly what I've been doing with my daughter.

[sparks19]

You can't discipline kids anymore?

Damn.

And to think all this time the last 5 years that's exactly what I've been doing with my daughter.

You better hope no one sees you.... or they will report you to the hurt feelings police

I'm telling ya man... it happens all the time.

I remember in my hometown there was a guy at the mall with his two kids. I believe they were about 5 and 3 or something close to that anyway.... this was a few years ago. Anyway the younger child was climbing into the car and the older child came running over and slammed the car door and the little boys fingers got slammed in the door. So the father gave the little girl a whomp on the butt.... big deal right? Well someone saw this... called childrens aid and there was a big to do about him smacking his daughter on the butt. It was all over in the papers and they "tracked" this story while the childrens aid dealt with the situation. WTF?????!!!!! A smack on the butt is abuse and warrants the childrens aid? Good thing they are so worried about these kids whose parents are actually trying to raise them properly instead of these kids that are really suffering REAL abuse.

But yes Catnapper.... I hear it all the time with my nieces and nephews being in school..... no red.... no X's.... no one is wrong everyone is always right.

[catnapper]

Hey, that reminds me. I was helping hubby grade some papers this year. It was all multiple choice. Basically, I went down a row, A B B A C D A B D D A, etc. If they answered B when it should have been C, I was supposed to mark it wrong. No X's. No slashes. Just the letter it should have been. And I got "yelled" at for using red ink, so I just used purple . Apparently red is mean and could hurt their feelings -- dude, you got it wrong! Do ya want me to hand you a twinkie to make you feel better? Wrong is wrong, right is right. I learned from my mistakes. Nobody sugar coated them. I got red X's. I grew up with a good sense of self. Heck, red's my favorite color!