Banned from grad for senior prank

[crow_noir]

So why not just make the kid that did it pay for the new trays?

You learn a lot of respect for the things you have to pay for.

Even if i accidentally broke a toy i never got a replacement. That was that.

People in this thread keep talking about "The Real World." In the real world the phrase goes "You broke it, you bought it."

I must say I do not believe you. I do not believe teachers call students M*&^&*^F)(*()*ers. If they do, they should be fired.

They certainly need to spend more time teaching writing skills.

What prank would you consider sufficient for disciplinary action? Someone physically hurt? An animal hurt? The amount of money it cost to clean up after the prank?

A prank is a prank. Someone has to clean up after the mess. The school has to buy new trays.

[buttercup132]

So why not just make the kid that did it pay for the new trays?

You learn a lot of respect for the things you have to pay for.

Even if i accidentally broke a toy i never got a replacement. That was that.

People in this thread keep talking about "The Real World." In the real world the phrase goes "You broke it, you bought it."

That kind of punishment would be better IMO.

And yes the teachers say that and no they aren't fired. Nobody cares enough to go and report them.

One of my teachers is sexist and makes fun of guys who do "sissy" sports, in every class he teaches. Last year he made fun of my friend for getting stabbed all because he's 20 and still bmx's. My friends obviously were mad, they were graduating so for the prank they egged his car. They got in trouble the teacher still never has.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Because mommy would pay for it...teaching nothing...

[sparks19]

Because mommy would pay for it...teaching nothing...

well then that's a whole different issue. In my house.... If I damaged something.... I had to pay for it. Hence, my strong resistance to driving.... you get a whole new respect for cars when you have to pay to have the dents and scratches fixed in your mothers car lol. At 17 or 18 years old he should at least have a part time job I would hope....

But I have still been unsuccessful in finding the news story about this particular case.... I didn't actually hear it on the news... it was on a talk radio show and they were discussing it with the mother... and then some other people (I don't know who they were)

[buttercup132]

Because mommy would pay for it...teaching nothing...

Why do you assume that? Nice way to view teenagers I know my mom sure as heck wouldn't pay for it. It's stupid remarks like that, that make younger people disrespect their elders..

[lizbud]

Why do you assume that? Nice way to view teenagers I know my mom sure as heck wouldn't pay for it. It's stupid remarks like that, that make younger people disrespect their elders..

It's clear you don't understand respect. It is earned with wise choices
in the adult world. The world owes you nothing but a chance to earn respect
for yourself.

[K9soul]

Things have sure changed since I was in school, and I graduated in '93. I can't even imagine speaking in such a way to anyone when I was a kid, but especially an adult, or rolling my eyes at them. Maybe it is just how I was raised, but I certainly thank my mom for that. I always try to be respectful, even if it is not being reciprocated. It will just get you a lot farther in life with people you deal with on a day-to-day basis.

[Alysser]

I know this is off topic, but there are some teachers I would just will NEVER like. I never have talked back to a teacher, I always try and be polite to them. Saying sorry when I knock something down, saying thanks when they help me with something I don't understand, but some teachers I just cannot STAND, like my spanish teacher. She has no respect for my class, so even though I show her some respect, I will never like her.

Yes, I guess with certain kids, they have a right to yell at them, and I fully agree alot of the time but when a kid is DOING nothing wrong we get yelled at anyway. I hate when one kid or several, not the whole class, does something wrong, we all get extra work or extra lectures. ALOT of teachers at my school(especially the spanish teacher) pick on certain kids and it annoys the crap out of me. Please don't say you don't believe me, because if you weren't in our class you would have no idea what I am talking about and I guess will never fully understand. You can choose NOT to believe this whole post but I know it's true and it's really sad, IMO.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Why do you assume that? Nice way to view teenagers I know my mom sure as heck wouldn't pay for it. It's stupid remarks like that, that make younger people disrespect their elders..

I love the delicious irony of this statement.

The thing is...I was once a teenager. You have not yet been an adult yet. (If you are lucky you will be one day.)

You do not have the privilege of calling me or my remark stupid.

You earn that and you haven't done it yet.

And a part of growing up is learning to control your temper and your words.

Meanwhile, as long as I pay the taxes that purchase the trays and other supplies to provide you with an education, I earn the right to make negative remarks about people who deface school property, are rude and disrepectful to parents and school authorities.

Let me know how you feel in 20 years.

[catnapper]

Let me know how you feel in 20 years.

I often wonder what some people will think if they ever return to their threads here in 20 years.

I think the trouble here lies in the feeling of invincibility we've fostered in kids today. Don't tell them "no" as a child because you might hurt their confidence. Don't tell them they're wrong or you might hamper their creativity. Great, now we're stuck with a bunch of creative kids with cockiness off the scales. They don't think any law or rule can touch t hem. They'll get out of it by being charming. If that fails, mommy and daddy will come to the rescue.

My husband had an issue one afternoon with kids in his class. What they did wasn't as important to how they reacted when he told them to remain in their seats and focus on their books. One told him point-blank to "f*@%-off" and hubby sent him to the vice principal. 10 minutes later the kid was back WITHOUT a detention because the school is overwhelmed with bigger issues. They see they can lip off without repercussions so they try bigger acts of defiance thinking they can get away with it. Then one day he goes one step too far and is banned from graduation, he starts crying foul play.

Fast forward from the incident where the kid mouthed off to today. The same kid who told hubby to "f*@%-off" was banned from their schools' 8th grade graduation ceremony because he misbehaved with the wrong person watching, and that person decided to make the kid responsible for his actions by removing him from the ceremony. His mom was there, outside sceaming her head off because her precious son who never got into trouble wasn't allowed to walk in the ceremony. This boy who "never got in trouble" was ALWAYS in the principal's office. Always getting calls home with warnings. Just because he never actually got suspensions or many detenisons doesn;t mean he wasn't ever in trouble.

Funny how I read this last week and a VERY similar situation occured to hubby's student today!

[sparks19]

I think the trouble here lies in the feeling of invincibility we've fostered in kids today. Don't tell them "no" as a child because you might hurt their confidence. Don't tell them they're wrong or you might hamper their creativity. Great, now we're stuck with a bunch of creative kids with cockiness off the scales. They don't think any law or rule can touch t hem. They'll get out of it by being charming. If that fails, mommy and daddy will come to the rescue.

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I couldn't agree more with this statement.

They can't play tag or what ever other game cause someone might feel excluded or have their feelings hurt or fall down and go boom..... you can't hold kids back a grade if they are not progressing (although I do NOT see how pushing them ahead a grade to harder material helps them one bit) You can't give kids a failing grade because it hurts their feelings or embarrasses them.....

Basically you can't discipline kids anymore AT ALL. and kids KNOW it. And this goes for parents too.... you give your kid a swat on the butt and someone see's it and reports you for ABUSE.....