"Pet Angel Fund for Spaying Gizzy et al"

[kittycats_delight]

People I think everyone needs to chill out here. All this is ridiculous beyond words. Everyone seems to be losing sight of the real purpose...the pets. I can see where Bri is coming from wanting to know in advance that an appointment was being made on her behalf. With all honesty if someone did that for me without letting me know first then I would be upset too. Of course that is no offence to Gina I know she was being very helpful and I do commend her for her efforts. I also see how people got upset by Bri being upset cause this has been ongoing and back and forth for so long. But all this screaming and bashing and putting down is completely outrageous.

This thing with Bri and her mom and leaving if her mom tried to rehome her pets...why don't we think about this for a second. I simply think Bri is trying to let you all know how much her animals mean to her. They are her life. Please understand this. I know more about this situation than anyone else here. Bri would be lost without them. The stress on this 14 year old girl is overwhelming. Most adults would crack. But what Bri is trying to tell you all is she would rather leave than lose her pets but she knows that is not possible as she has no where else to go. She loves her mom despite all her flaws and all the things she has done. But her pets are her lifeline right now and what is keeping her sane so to speak.

You know I think everyone needs to step back and take a deep breath and calm down. And another thing before we post from now on please read and re-read your post first. Put yourself in the other persons shoes and ask yourself how you would feel hearing these things. Also if you are angry DO NOT POST walk away and calm down first then come back and calmly post what you have to say without bashing and considering the fact you don't know everything and that there is another persons feelings to consider.


I have found lately PT is like a volcano ready to errupt. I don't know what is wrong with everyone but this really has got to stop. All the fighting and arguments...the bad feelings and bad attitudes. What happened to this community? This used to be such a wonderful caring compassionate place. It is still a wonderful place with some amazing people but MY GOD it has changed. I hope everyone can take a step back and relax...calm down and consider others before blowing their stack or going off the deep end on them. It makes PT a very hostile place sometimes. Let's try to keep this the wonderful community is has always been.


Thanks
Michelle

[Hellow]

It is all of the new people that have had all of 5 days experience on here.

[kittycats_delight]

It is all of the new people that have had all of 5 days experience on here.

What are you talking about?

[Hellow]

I mean when people bash other people it mostly comes from all of the new people.

[kittycats_delight]

I mean when people bash other people it mostly comes from all of the new people.

That is not always true. And in the case of this thread in particular definately not true. You are the newest person to post in this thread the other members have been here quite some time. And my point is this: New Member...Old Member...it doesn't matter the bashing and all this angry has to stop. People new and old need to step back and take a deep breath before posting and saying something that is not called for.

[shais_mom]

It is all of the new people that have had all of 5 days experience on here.

are you kidding?
You've been here less than a MONTH - I've been here 6 years!!!
You have noooooooo idea what this board is capable of. Good and unfortunately bad.

lbaker You have time and energy to set up a cafe press shop but can't find a phone to call to arrange vet time? What excuse will yet another "tomorrow" bring oh sigh, I'm so sorry to keep getting sucked in but it's so absurd it's almost addicting to this trauma/drama soap opera

Better than Tivo!

[Cataholic]

Better than Tivo!

Yeah, but, ONLY if you like re-runs. This isn't even last season's news. This is like watching THREE seasons ago news.

[Catty1]

Gizzy. Gizzy. Gizzy. The Animals. Please, Folks.

Let's get the pets helped, please, and get them to a clinic.

Bri's mom - those of us who are helping are doing it from our hearts. If you are feeling bad, please don't. We help one another here all the time, because we do care.

I had hard times for a long time...and then one day, I was able to pay it forward, which I am doing now.

Take care.

[JenBKR]

I didn't think of this before, but this link may be helpful. It's low cost vax that travel to Petcos. They have helped me when money got tight and it was vet time.

[popcornbird]

I am just shocked, and left speechless by this whole thread. To be honest, this whole thing is beyond my understanding. I cannot understand Bri's attitude, but more than anything, I am shocked at the advice some of the PT'ers are giving her.

"Leave your mother"

"Forge a signature for your mother"

Something must be seriously WRONG with some of you people.
A mother, who carried her child in her womb for 9 months, fed her from her own body when she was a baby, raised her, cared for her, fed her, her entire LIFE, has FAR MORE rights over her CHILD, than anyone else on the planet. How could you possibly tell a daughter to leave her MOTHER over a PET?!?! My gosh! Now I bet some of you would gladly choose a pet over a family member, but unless a family is abusive, I cannot imagine taking such a path. She is her MOTHER! Can any of the mothers here with young children IMAGINE that 10 years from now, perhaps there will be people out there advising your child to leave you. Sheesh. Every child has conflicts with his/her parents sometimes. If they go and tell others, that means those other 'elders' should advise them to leave their parents? Just imagine... I KNOW the mothers here would have a hard time even thinking about someone adivising their kid with such nonsense.

And to THINK Bri's mother would want money from people like that? I know for a fact that if I were in her mother's shoes, I would be furious about her asking for money from strangers off the internet. There are so many unseen dangers on the net, and teens often don't see them. I know that PT, in general, is a rather safe site, but parents have their very valid concerns.

As to forging a signature, that is encouraging a teenager to lie, cheat, and giving her the 'message' that breaking the law like that is okay.

Sad, very sad. I wasn't going to comment here, but after reading that statement, I just couldn't take it anymore. I don't understand why some people on PT NEED to interfere with her life SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much. She's 14 years old. Sometimes young people tend to make decisions without thinking, or can't understand WHY their parents make certain rules. That doesn't mean WE, strangers on the internet, need to do these things without talking to her MOTHER. She's a minor, not an adult, and her mom is responsible for her, AND, she has her own life in Tennessee, with her own pets, her own family. If I have a kid someday who goes online to ask for money during times of financial difficulty, you can be sure that not only would that kid NOT get that help, but that kid would have all internet rights taken from him/her. Why? If the child can't respect ME enough for raising him/her by asking me if this was okay to do first, then the child WOULD have to face consequences.

If Bri's mom is having financial difficulties, and her pets are healthy and not sick, her first priorities would be to pay rent, get food on the table, feed her kid, feed the animals, pay the bills. No one wants to accept money from strangers unless they're in a situation where they cannot even afford to have food on their table.

I just can't stand it when people turn kids away from their parents, rather than try to get them to understand them, and explain to them that no one is perfect, and no one's parents are perfect either, but they should respect their parents for all they have done for them.

Remember, there are people in this world who have no shelter. There are children in this world who's parents cannot afford medical care. There are people out there with serious illnesses, and no one to treat them. There are animals out there that roam the streets with no food or water to nourish themselves.

If you look at how a GREAT DEAL of poor people AND animals live in this world, you'd consider Bri and her pets fortunate. Life is not a bed of roses. There are thorns too...
...AND there WILL be thorns, in EVERYONE's life. You just gotta learn to deal with them in the right way.

[shais_mom]

If Bri's mom is having financial difficulties, and her pets are healthy and not sick, her first priorities would be to pay rent, get food on the table, feed her kid, feed the animals, pay the bills. No one wants to accept money from strangers unless they're in a situation where they cannot even afford to have food on their table.

Pops- I couldn't in my lifetime see your child doing this b/c your child wouldn't be left to raise herself like it seems Brianna has been left to do which is indeed very very sad.

[Ginger's Mom]

People I think everyone needs to chill out here. All this is ridiculous beyond words. Everyone seems to be losing sight of the real purpose...the pets. Thanks
Michelle

I could not agree more. It is my understanding that as far as we know none of the animals are sick (although since they do not receive veterinary care, I guess we really cannot be sure of that). What they are trying to do is get together enough money for someone who has collected four animals without having enough income to do anything other than feed them, so that she can take them to the vet to be spayed. I believe this all started in an attempt to correct a behavioral problem which may well have developed from the stress in the household. Somewhere along the line this child has convinced some well meaning people that it is in the best interest of everyone to pay for everything she has been unable to do while continuing to adopt additional animals and ask for more (a bird). I think that about sums it up.
I personally think the animals should be placed in homes where they can receive the care they need. That would also free up money in the household to pay the electric bill, but I am sure that I will be considered cold or unfeeling or mean to suggest such an alternative.