This is the last time.. Bye Baby:(

[applesmom]

Well said Callie! To rehome a dog aggressive dog is to avoid one's own responsibility!

[wolfsoul]

I'm sorry, but this is not a "training issue." This is inherited aggression. It was not allowed to develop -- it just came out of nowhere, and no amount of "obedience training" will turn most high drive dogs away from it's prey. Talk to owners on PT who have had dogs kill their cats, including myself -- and some who have had their own dogs kill their own cats. It was never an obedience issue. Telling a dog to "let go" of it's prey when it's adrenaline is pumping so fast it can not hear or think or see or smell or feel anything will not have any affect. I own high drive dogs, I have trained high drive dogs. I have dealt with working sharpness that will leave you bitten and bruised. Add aggression into the mix and you have a recipe for disaster that no amount of training will control entirely. This does not mean the dog should die. It just means it should not be allowed into certain situations. Hence why Baby is now wearing a muzzle 24/7. You can not always train out a behaviour but there are other ways to avoid dangerous behaviours without unnessecarily putting the dog to sleep. Just as I have friends who avoid having their dogs with cats, with men, with children, etc etc etc.

[critter crazy]

I am not trying to start anything, but how is keeping a dog in a muzzle 24/7, good for the dog??? Seems pretty cruel to me. I definitely think placing the dog, in a home without any other dogs, is a heck of a lot better, than it being in a muzzle 24/7. As long as the new owner is fully aware of the dogs behavior issues, and is willing to fully take on the Responsibilities. I would not enjoy seeing my dog in a muzzle. It would just kill me.

[wolfsoul]

I am not trying to start anything, but how is keeping a dog in a muzzle 24/7, good for the dog??? Seems pretty cruel to me. I definitely think placing the dog, in a home without any other dogs, is a heck of a lot better, than it being in a muzzle 24/7. As long as the new owner is fully aware of the dogs behavior issues, and is willing to fully take on the Responsibilities. I would not enjoy seeing my dog in a muzzle. It would just kill me.

The muzzle still allows Baby to pant, drink, and basically go about her normal life. She can even take food and treats from your hand. She is just not able to open her mouth wide to bite. There is nothing cruel about it -- she is still able to do everything normally -- it would be more cruel to the other dogs to leave it off. She acts happy and normal.

[tikeyas_mom]

Baby really doesn't seem to mind wearing the muzzle on a regular basis. She does try to get it off once in a while, which is to be expected. When she is fed (by her self no other dogs around) she gets the muzzle taken off..

As well as when she goes to bed. Since shes been sick with that soft tissue infection she has been ordered to have at least a nap a day, and she sleeps through the whole night WITHOUT the muzzle on. So its not like she lives her WHOLe existance with the muzzle on, there really is no need for the muzzle when the other FEMALE dogs arnt around.

And Callie, that post you made, really doesn't apply what-so-ever to this delicate situation.

[Karen]

This thread is out of date, Callie. If you read the "gas gangrene" thread, you'll see that, after nearly losing Baby because of her illness, they realized they'd miss her too much, and loved her too much to let her go. When Jynelle and her dog's move out pretty soon, Baby will be stayingwhewre she is with Jynelle's parents, thereby removing the conflict between she and Tikeya.