Do All Vegans Think This Way?

[jackie]

That is shocking.

If that guy is already whining, wait until he gets thrown into the general population and the other guys find out he is a baby killer...

[Maresche]

It is when the potential for generalizations like this arise that I feel the need to say--There are jerks and morons everywhere.

Are there unhealthy vegan children?--Yes.

Are there unhealthy vegetarian children?--Yes.

Are there unhealthy omnivore children?--Yes.

I highly doubt these people were truly vegan anyway. Vegans try to avoid causing suffering to living beings. They were NOT doing that for their son.

They sound like fools who jumped on a bandwagon (in this case veganism) because it sounded cool without doing any of the research that goes into what it really means to be vegan, etc.

[Logan]

How sad!

AS the mother of a child who had horrible, horrible allergies as an infant, I know that there are infant formulas that are soy based. We used them for Helen after she stopped breastfeeding at 4 months old (her choice, not mine ) and the normal infant formulas seemed to be causing her asthma issues. I can't remember the name of the one we had to use but it was terribly expensive and necessary for her. If soy is an acceptable infant formula, then these so called "parents" should have provided it, but in a form that works for infants, not adults! This is sick, sick, sick and I totally agree with you, Pam.

Logan

[smokey the elder]

My grand niece had to be on special formula too, she was premature. There are unfortunately too many dirtbag parents of all dietary stripes out there.

[mugsy]

They both got life in prison, but, I don't think that was good enough...

complain all you want moron...YOU killed your kid! OY!

[lizbud]

I am sure that there are lots of vegan parents out there with perfectly healthy children. These parents starved their baby, pure and simple

I guess they should be the ones to answer my questions. What do vegans
feel is acceptable to feed an infant or toddler? Do they believe in vitamins
for children, or what about vaccinations? The list could go on & on

[Pembroke_Corgi]

I guess they should be the ones to answer my questions. What do vegans
feel is acceptable to feed an infant or toddler? Do they believe in vitamins
for children, or what about vaccinations? The list could go on & on

People become vegans (they eat no animal products at all- no meat, eggs, dairy, or by-products) and vegetarians (most common kind eats no meat or fish, but eats eggs and dairy) for very different reasons. For some people, it is an ethical decision, for others, it is purely for health benefits.

Therefore, to ask what vegans feel is right to feed a child isn't really applicable- you could get hundreds of answers. The people that did this to their poor baby were obviously very uneducated and negligent in other ways, too. If they had taken their baby to a doctor, for example, surely something could have been done before this poor baby lost his life. It's so sad that children die because there parents are too incompetent to care for them properly.

[lizbud]

Therefore, to ask what vegans feel is right to feed a child isn't really applicable- you could get hundreds of answers. The people that did this to their poor baby were obviously very uneducated and negligent in other ways, too. If they had taken their baby to a doctor, for example, surely something could have been done before this poor baby lost his life. It's so sad that children die because there parents are too incompetent to care for them properly.

I think you were right about this. I did find an article in the Chicago Tribune
on this subject & between the article & the comments to the article, most
all of my questions were answered. Thanks.

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune....parents_s.html

[Cataholic]

This is just sick. It has nothing to do with vegans, and everything to do with some form of mental illness.

I am not vegan, but, I am vegetarian. I managed to breastfeed, and would imagine a vegan could perform the same way as I.

As to what does *this*vegatarian feed *her* child, Jonah doesn't eat meat. I think he came to it mostly as a by product of my eating style (if I am not cooking meat, he isn't eating meat), but, I don't know how I will react when he becomes more vocal (and, hopefully, more explorative) about food. I hope he makes the same lifestyle choice that I do.

I remember someone offering Jonah round sausage patties, and they were quite convinced he would gobble it down. Well, it *did* look like a soy sausage patty. One bite into it, and the "look" was on his face. Out it came.

[sabies]

Being about 8 months pregnant and a vegetarian myself I now understand more about babies. A vegan should be very aware of proper nutrition since it is not an easy lifestyle if you're strict (how many restaurants/fast food places can you go to?). Being a vegan would not keep anyone from breastfeeding but for various other reasons it does not always work.

I have learned much in the past month about feeding issues and fussy babies. There are plenty of soy formula products and there is formula for babies who do not tolerate milk or soy - which is fairly common! If they had fussy baby issues their pediatrician could have helped them. I imagine they did not go to a pediatrician. 3lbs is very low weight - my unborn baby already weighs more. Even though babies lose weight right after birth their weight should never go down that low or the baby would be hospitalized. I don't think this baby had a chance, vegan or not.

As for my baby she will be vegetarian while I breastfeed but an omnivore after til she decides on her own. Of course for anything more complicated then "heat in oven" or "open can, dump in pot and heat up" my husband will do the meat cooking. As for my dog she is a complete carnivore - she will not eat any of my food, I could drop it all on the floor.

[Lady'sOtherHuman]

What was the mother's excuse for not breast feeding?
No animal cruelty involved there.

Exactly!

[Cataholic]

As for my baby she will be vegetarian while I breastfeed but an omnivore after til she decides on her own.

How come? I have managed to successfully meet my child's needs, meat free, for 2.5 years now. There are plenty of other protein based food choices besides meat, and none of them carry the same risk of heart, blood pressure, cholestrol issues that a diet 'rich' in animal protein does.

My son's doctor, at the 2 year visit, commented on his 'health' (after learning he was a vegatarian) and said, "I wish all my patients were like your son". Course, maybe he does say that to everyone...but, I took it as a compliment.

Good luck with the BF. Tough road sometimes, initially, but well worth it!

[AvaJoy]

Doesn't sound like this child died because his parents were vegans, sounds like this child was starved to death.

I agree.

[AdoreMyDogs]

the parents should be offered only 1 glass of cows milk per day to sustain them for 6 weeks while behind bars. That'll give them a hint of what torture that baby suffered in his short existance.

[sabies]

Cataholic - I became a vegetarian (20 yrs ago) based on taste, not because I didn't want to eat animals. Of course I love animals so that often prevents me from giving meat a chance again. My baby's father is not vegetarian so he will be giving her meat. I don't care which diet she chooses.

My only concern over my child's diet is for when she is a little older and is exposed to all the sugar at kid parties and schools. I won't stop her from eating some cake and candy at these occasions but I've been to parties where I've seen kids allowed to skip the main meal (bad, cheap pizza) and go straight for dessert.