Bri & The Pets, Pet Angel Fund, Read post 95 for More info.

[shais_mom]

WOW, it's pretty nice that Pet Talk can pay for someone else's pets. Wish someone could give me free handouts when it came to vet bills. I've had incredibly difficult times paying for vet bills in the past but I couldn't imagine asking anyone to pay for something that *I* brought on myself.

I work a low paying job and pay for all of the care and necessities of 4 large dogs, including vet, food, collars, toys, etc.

I understand an emergency (ex:Raven's Cancer) but this is something that every pet owner should be able to pay for - or they should not own animals.

I see a voice of reason. Kay I know you and I don't see eye to eye a lot but you are RIGHT on the MONEY (no pun intended) on this one....
I just found this thread tonite and was sooo STUNNED that someone would have the BALLS to ask for money for BASIC vet care for their pets I couldn't even comphrehend. Congratulations you made me speechless, and that sure as HE!! does NOT happen very often.
I am truly, deeply, honestly very very sorry that you and your mom struggle like you do. I very truly am. I know you think I am a big fat meanie but I really truly am sorry you are dealt with this hand in life, it sucks for you. And while I understand that you LOVE your animals, you have to do what is best for them and honestly sometimes giving up that animal is what is best for them. And if you and your mom are in such dire financial straights your animals can't be getting the care that they need, and I am not talking even basic vet care, I'm talking food. If you are struggling to put food on your table STOP BRINGING IN MORE ANIMALS!! 2 dogs and 2 cats (plus???) are a lot for a person with a good paying steady job.
Pet Talkers are a generous bunch of souls but this is just flabbergasting to me....

[luckies4me]

Crow_noir, roundworms rarely show up in fecal matter unless they get very bad. They look much like spaghetti and are usually vomited up. The ones most commonly seen are tapeworm segments, which look like tiny specks of white rice. Recommending something like that probably isn't a good idea. She could easily take the cat to a deworming clinic to get them dewormed by a vet who knows what they are doing, and Petsmart sells Tapeworm Tabs over the counter that work very well, Praziquantal...or however it is spelled. It's the equivalent of Drontal or Droncit and will kill not only tapes, but roundworms and hookworms. Just because you used this remedy (which sounds very sketchy to me) doesn't mean it is safe to use!

And not to jump on the bandwagon here but I wholeheartedly agree with Shais_mom and Kay!

[shais_mom]

And not to jump on the bandwagon here but I wholeheartedly agree with Shais_mom and Kay!

I think you just might have that baby tonite/today. You and I and Kay and I all agreeing on the same subject - something's GOT TO happen!

please take that in the context I mean it also - lighthearted- I do wish you well tho! Goodluck baby!

[luckies4me]

I think you just might have that baby tonite/today. You and I and Kay and I all agreeing on the same subject - something's GOT TO happen!

please take that in the context I mean it also - lighthearted- I do wish you well tho! Goodluck baby!

LOL You might be right! I've already been to the hospital once tonight, contractions weren't super regular. Now they are about 5 minutes apart and lasting between 90 sec to 3 minutes each. I just took an Ambient though so now I'm pretty loopy...and I mean loopy! Hoping I can get a little sleep before I go back to the hospital, which is tomorrow morning.

[Uabassoon]

Like others, I also am curious as to why this fund is being set up. Just last week Bri wanted to add another pet to the house, why keep adding more pets when you can't care for the ones that you have. I know that you have had Lily around for a while, it's been well over a year. Why did you get another cat when you already couldn't afford to spay Lily, a dog which you already owned and have made a commitment to? Now I do realize that what's done is done, you have these pets and now they must be cared for. They need to get their shots and they need to fixed before the problem escalates. My main concern is that you still want more pets. The other thing that bugs me is this comment that was made just a few days ago when someone expressed concern about you getting another pet.

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Because I can get my pets spayed this summer with my summer job? And I can let my mom get me the bird, and then after my pets are spayed the rest of my money can go towards the bird..

Why are you asking for donations if you will be getting a job in a few weeks once the school year ends?

[Catty1]

LOOK! Someone who is 14 years old is gonna want a bird without necessarily getting one...might think that her summer job will pay the $730 before one cat is kicked out...please remember Bri's age!

Several of us have worked our a***** off to get this set up! DON'T donate if you don't want to - but for GOD'S sake, if you have something negative to say, SHUT UP!

Do you think the several of us who are setting this up have NO brains whatsoever???? Or the vets?

There are people on Pet Talk with two regular jobs in the household who STILL find they need $$ help for their pets' care. So tell me again why you are picking on an underemployed single-parent family?

End of rant.

[jennielynn1970]

LOOK! Someone who is 14 years old is gonna want a bird without necessarily getting one...might think that her summer job will pay the $730 before one cat is kicked out...please remember Bri's age!

Several of us have worked our a***** off to get this set up! DON'T donate if you don't want to - but for GOD'S sake, if you have something negative to say, SHUT UP!

Do you think the several of us who are setting this up have NO brains whatsoever???? Or the vets?

There are people on Pet Talk with two regular jobs in the household who STILL find they need $$ help for their pets' care. So tell me again why you are picking on an underemployed single-parent family?

End of rant.

She's not picking on the family. She's upset that others are ENABLING them. All that will happen is that Bri, who even at 14 knows what is right and what is wrong, will bring in more pets. She even asked if it will be a PERMANENT or TEMPORARY fund.

Hello.... do you see that a pattern may set in?

Not to be witchy, but maybe they should move in with a really wealthy PetTalker and then they can all be taken care of.

Sarcasm there.

I'm just really annoyed by IRRESPONSIBLE pet owners.

I teach kids, so I do know that by Bri's age, they know what they are doing, and they know right from wrong. Unless Bri has a learning disability, then there is no excuse for her behavior. Go to a public school, talk with some 14yr olds, you'll be surprised how mature they really are.

Some people are just really good at taking advantage of a good situation, and enablers just let it keep happening.

So yea, let's just neuter, spay, get shots and all that for all her pets. For life. Why not.

End of my rant.

[crow_noir]

DO your research! This IS safe to use. It's used in human food supplies as well as cattle feed. You can find tons of info on it online and in books. I am NOT the only one who has used this to deworm their pets.

Crow_noir, roundworms rarely show up in fecal matter unless they get very bad. They look much like spaghetti and are usually vomited up. The ones most commonly seen are tapeworm segments, which look like tiny specks of white rice. Recommending something like that probably isn't a good idea. She could easily take the cat to a deworming clinic to get them dewormed by a vet who knows what they are doing, and Petsmart sells Tapeworm Tabs over the counter that work very well, Praziquantal...or however it is spelled. It's the equivalent of Drontal or Droncit and will kill not only tapes, but roundworms and hookworms. Just because you used this remedy (which sounds very sketchy to me) doesn't mean it is safe to use!

And not to jump on the bandwagon here but I wholeheartedly agree with Shais_mom and Kay!

[luckies4me]

DO your research! This IS safe to use. It's used in human food supplies as well as cattle feed. You can find tons of info on it online and in books. I am NOT the only one who has used this to deworm their pets.

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You should be able to get it at any garden type store. make sure it is NOT for pools. (Pool grade is highly toxic.

Mix a bit of this up in some broth or gravy (NOT WARMED... adding heat to DE can make it toxic!)

Offering this kind of advise online on a pet forum to a 14 year old is a little absurd. Why not suggest taking the cat to a *VET* or recommend an over the counter cat dewormer that is veterinarian recommended. That would seem a little more reasonable don't you think? And it beats having to treat over and over again to make sure the parasites are completely gone, when you can treat twice and know the product you are using is effective. Not to mention, if the cat has fleas and is not treated for fleas, the worms will just come back anyway. What makes you think a 14 year old is going to remember exactly how to mix it up? Seems a bit chancy to me.

I've used this in my garden for years. While medical/food grade DE can be safe to use as a dewormer *if you know what you're doing* <---key point here, it's still risky, and I really wouldn't trust the boxes sold at your local Wallmart/garden supply store. Your best bet is to purchase it online from a pet supplier, who will have the right stuff. There are many places online to purchase it.

And really. I didn't ASK for your god***m opinions, and I don't want to hear them. THOSE OF YOU WHO CAN ONLY BASH ME, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS

Do you really think this is the kind of attitude one should have when there are two great people out there right at this moment helping your pets get the veterinary care they need? I have seen no one bashing you on this thread, just pter's merely questioning what is going on. No one is calling you names, and when you post to a public forum you are making your life our business. If you don't want us to know/care about what goes on with you perhaps you should rethink about posting it for all to see.

First off, I think that there are many single moms out there that would be totally offended to know that they are thought of like this.

THANK YOU! I am a single mother with a 5 year old and a baby on the way. Being single is no excuse! Everyone has issues/troubles, it doesn't matter if you are single, divorced, widowed, or married. I have been supporting myself since the age of 17, and now have a great job as a Veterinary Technician at one of the largest animal hospitals in the U.S. Times are tough, but I am coping. All my animals are well taken care of and you better believe I would starve myself before ever letting my children/pets go hungry. I would love to add another bearded dragon to my household but is it the right time? No. I don't have the funds or the time to care for another pet. I used to run a rescue and recently due to becoming homeless and having major health issues it was in the best interest of the animals in my care to be rehomed, as bad as it hurt me inside. I knew they deserved better so I did the responsible thing and all found great loving homes, even Tony who I had been trying to adopt out for a year and a half! I even managed a way to make sure everyone was up to date on shots etc. before going to their new homes, because I owed them that much. After all, they did not ask for me to "rescue" them. They were MY responsibility. Now I'm on top of my game...anyone can do it. It might take awhile but it is possible. You just need to sacrifice, and sometimes sacrificing can mean doing something you really don't like. But that's life.

Well, my mom finds this whole idea rediculous and I don't think she gives a rat's butt if Gizzie is ever spayed, she just wants her out of here T_T. I've been doing everything so far. My mom wouldn't even call a rescue for me, she just wants to take Gizzie to the animal shelter and dump her.

Since page one it seems excuses have been made for why the family can't do this. First it was getting to a phone (it's not that hard to walk down to your local 711 or what have ya to use a payphone), then it was her mother not wanting her to call etc etc etc. She even said herself the mom just does not like the cat. What if we spay the pet and the mom just gets rid of the cat anyway?! Don't you think the animal deserves to be somewhere where it's stay at the house isn't in jeopardy every day? And I don't buy the excuse that nothing can be done to find this animal a home. Just because there is only a kill shelter around does not mean the animal has to go there. She has the internet and can easily place an ad online on Craigslist, maybe even in her local newspaper? Craigslist is free, and placing an ad in the paper isn't too spendy. I'm sure someone here would be willing to do that as well. How about making a flyer with the cats picture on it and posting it in your local vets office or pet shop?

I feel awful for you Bri, as you should not be the one having to deal with all of this. You are just 14 and it should be your mother's responsibility. If she knew you guys could not afford another pet she shouldn't have let you bring another into the house, plain and simple. I really hope everything works out in the favor of the pets. I know you would love to keep them, and I hope that your family situation gets better soon so that you may get to do that. But please, if you know you cannot care for them in the way they need it may be best to rehome them. I would hate for your mom to take someone to the shelter after so many people here have helped with her medical needs, so that the chances of her staying are better.

Ask yourself. What happens if Gizzy's behavior does not change after her spay? What if she keeps clawing furniture etc? Then what? Keep in mind, all of us here are just thinking of what is best for the pets.

[crow_noir]

There have been plenty of suggestions to take the cat to the vet, and i even mentioned it in my post that this was just until she could get them to a vet. This was a solution that i was offering for "right now, today." Not a week from now.

If money is truly an issue here i was trying to offer a low cost suggestion that can last for years. Dewormer poisons can expire.

As for being able to mix it up properly, i highly doubt "do not heat" is too hard a concept for a 14 year old to remember. She can always print out the instructions or save it to some form of document program for easy finding.

Most instructions for the DE online say to only use twice also, but i like to err on the side of caution.

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Offering this kind of advise online on a pet forum to a 14 year old is a little absurd. Why not suggest taking the cat to a *VET* or recommend an over the counter cat dewormer that is veterinarian recommended. That would seem a little more reasonable don't you think? And it beats having to treat over and over again to make sure the parasites are completely gone, when you can treat twice and know the product you are using is effective. Not to mention, if the cat has fleas and is not treated for fleas, the worms will just come back anyway. What makes you think a 14 year old is going to remember exactly how to mix it up? Seems a bit chancy to me.

I've used this in my garden for years. While medical/food grade DE can be safe to use as a dewormer *if you know what you're doing* <---key point here, it's still risky, and I really wouldn't trust the boxes sold at your local Wallmart/garden supply store. Your best bet is to purchase it online from a pet supplier, who will have the right stuff. There are many places online to purchase it.

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Keep in mind, all of us here are just thinking of what is best for the pets.

Exactly.

[luckies4me]

As for being able to mix it up properly, i highly doubt "do not heat" is too hard a concept for a 14 year old to remember.

Maybe not, but a lot just don't care to remember. Don't you remember being 14? Not to pick on the youngins or anything!!! Plus, since she has no job and the money is tight I'm not so sure her mother would be willing to buy it, especially since a fund has already been set up.

I guess being involved in Veterinary Medicine for the past 9 years has me a little biased.

[wolf_Q]

I agree completely with Kay and Staci. And to think about getting another pet (cockatiel) with all of this too?

In the past couple of months I have spent roughly $600 in vet bills for my dogs. Sure it would be nice to get some help with vet bills but I would never ask for that, I'm the one that made the commitment to having them. If there was an emergency I know Pet Talk would be there for me as they have for so many other people...I feel that is one of the most amazing things about this forum. But anyone who has a pet should be able to pay for spay/neuter and routine vet care.

[shais_mom]

I agree completely with Kay and Staci. And to think about getting another pet (cockatiel) with all of this too?

In the past couple of months I have spent roughly $600 in vet bills for my dogs. Sure it would be nice to get some help with vet bills but I would never ask for that, I'm the one that made the commitment to having them. If there was an emergency I know Pet Talk would be there for me as they have for so many other people...I feel that is one of the most amazing things about this forum. But anyone who has a pet should be able to pay for spay/neuter and routine vet care.

I agree - Keegan's abscess drainage alone was $222. And that was simple. Only one nite in the clinic. I could have had her spayed like TWICE or more for that!