Bri & The Pets, Pet Angel Fund, Read post 95 for More info.

[Roxyluvsme13]

But really at the moment we don't even have the money to buy that stuff.. my mom doesn't have a steady job again at the moment.. and we're in another rough spot.

[crow_noir]

That bites...

I wish i lived (a LOT) closer. I'd drop some off to you.

The post office isn't too fond of white powders either.

But really at the moment we don't even have the money to buy that stuff.. my mom doesn't have a steady job again at the moment.. and we're in another rough spot.

[Kfamr]

WOW, it's pretty nice that Pet Talk can pay for someone else's pets. Wish someone could give me free handouts when it came to vet bills. I've had incredibly difficult times paying for vet bills in the past but I couldn't imagine asking anyone to pay for something that *I* brought on myself.

I work a low paying job and pay for all of the care and necessities of 4 large dogs, including vet, food, collars, toys, etc.

I understand an emergency (ex:Raven's Cancer) but this is something that every pet owner should be able to pay for - or they should not own animals.

I am glad her pets are getting the care they need now, though.

[shais_mom]

WOW, it's pretty nice that Pet Talk can pay for someone else's pets. Wish someone could give me free handouts when it came to vet bills. I've had incredibly difficult times paying for vet bills in the past but I couldn't imagine asking anyone to pay for something that *I* brought on myself.

I work a low paying job and pay for all of the care and necessities of 4 large dogs, including vet, food, collars, toys, etc.

I understand an emergency (ex:Raven's Cancer) but this is something that every pet owner should be able to pay for - or they should not own animals.

I see a voice of reason. Kay I know you and I don't see eye to eye a lot but you are RIGHT on the MONEY (no pun intended) on this one....
I just found this thread tonite and was sooo STUNNED that someone would have the BALLS to ask for money for BASIC vet care for their pets I couldn't even comphrehend. Congratulations you made me speechless, and that sure as HE!! does NOT happen very often.
I am truly, deeply, honestly very very sorry that you and your mom struggle like you do. I very truly am. I know you think I am a big fat meanie but I really truly am sorry you are dealt with this hand in life, it sucks for you. And while I understand that you LOVE your animals, you have to do what is best for them and honestly sometimes giving up that animal is what is best for them. And if you and your mom are in such dire financial straights your animals can't be getting the care that they need, and I am not talking even basic vet care, I'm talking food. If you are struggling to put food on your table STOP BRINGING IN MORE ANIMALS!! 2 dogs and 2 cats (plus???) are a lot for a person with a good paying steady job.
Pet Talkers are a generous bunch of souls but this is just flabbergasting to me....

[luckies4me]

Crow_noir, roundworms rarely show up in fecal matter unless they get very bad. They look much like spaghetti and are usually vomited up. The ones most commonly seen are tapeworm segments, which look like tiny specks of white rice. Recommending something like that probably isn't a good idea. She could easily take the cat to a deworming clinic to get them dewormed by a vet who knows what they are doing, and Petsmart sells Tapeworm Tabs over the counter that work very well, Praziquantal...or however it is spelled. It's the equivalent of Drontal or Droncit and will kill not only tapes, but roundworms and hookworms. Just because you used this remedy (which sounds very sketchy to me) doesn't mean it is safe to use!

And not to jump on the bandwagon here but I wholeheartedly agree with Shais_mom and Kay!

[shais_mom]

And not to jump on the bandwagon here but I wholeheartedly agree with Shais_mom and Kay!

I think you just might have that baby tonite/today. You and I and Kay and I all agreeing on the same subject - something's GOT TO happen!

please take that in the context I mean it also - lighthearted- I do wish you well tho! Goodluck baby!

[luckies4me]

I think you just might have that baby tonite/today. You and I and Kay and I all agreeing on the same subject - something's GOT TO happen!

please take that in the context I mean it also - lighthearted- I do wish you well tho! Goodluck baby!

LOL You might be right! I've already been to the hospital once tonight, contractions weren't super regular. Now they are about 5 minutes apart and lasting between 90 sec to 3 minutes each. I just took an Ambient though so now I'm pretty loopy...and I mean loopy! Hoping I can get a little sleep before I go back to the hospital, which is tomorrow morning.

[crow_noir]

DO your research! This IS safe to use. It's used in human food supplies as well as cattle feed. You can find tons of info on it online and in books. I am NOT the only one who has used this to deworm their pets.

Crow_noir, roundworms rarely show up in fecal matter unless they get very bad. They look much like spaghetti and are usually vomited up. The ones most commonly seen are tapeworm segments, which look like tiny specks of white rice. Recommending something like that probably isn't a good idea. She could easily take the cat to a deworming clinic to get them dewormed by a vet who knows what they are doing, and Petsmart sells Tapeworm Tabs over the counter that work very well, Praziquantal...or however it is spelled. It's the equivalent of Drontal or Droncit and will kill not only tapes, but roundworms and hookworms. Just because you used this remedy (which sounds very sketchy to me) doesn't mean it is safe to use!

And not to jump on the bandwagon here but I wholeheartedly agree with Shais_mom and Kay!

[luckies4me]

DO your research! This IS safe to use. It's used in human food supplies as well as cattle feed. You can find tons of info on it online and in books. I am NOT the only one who has used this to deworm their pets.

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You should be able to get it at any garden type store. make sure it is NOT for pools. (Pool grade is highly toxic.

Mix a bit of this up in some broth or gravy (NOT WARMED... adding heat to DE can make it toxic!)

Offering this kind of advise online on a pet forum to a 14 year old is a little absurd. Why not suggest taking the cat to a *VET* or recommend an over the counter cat dewormer that is veterinarian recommended. That would seem a little more reasonable don't you think? And it beats having to treat over and over again to make sure the parasites are completely gone, when you can treat twice and know the product you are using is effective. Not to mention, if the cat has fleas and is not treated for fleas, the worms will just come back anyway. What makes you think a 14 year old is going to remember exactly how to mix it up? Seems a bit chancy to me.

I've used this in my garden for years. While medical/food grade DE can be safe to use as a dewormer *if you know what you're doing* <---key point here, it's still risky, and I really wouldn't trust the boxes sold at your local Wallmart/garden supply store. Your best bet is to purchase it online from a pet supplier, who will have the right stuff. There are many places online to purchase it.

And really. I didn't ASK for your god***m opinions, and I don't want to hear them. THOSE OF YOU WHO CAN ONLY BASH ME, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS

Do you really think this is the kind of attitude one should have when there are two great people out there right at this moment helping your pets get the veterinary care they need? I have seen no one bashing you on this thread, just pter's merely questioning what is going on. No one is calling you names, and when you post to a public forum you are making your life our business. If you don't want us to know/care about what goes on with you perhaps you should rethink about posting it for all to see.

First off, I think that there are many single moms out there that would be totally offended to know that they are thought of like this.

THANK YOU! I am a single mother with a 5 year old and a baby on the way. Being single is no excuse! Everyone has issues/troubles, it doesn't matter if you are single, divorced, widowed, or married. I have been supporting myself since the age of 17, and now have a great job as a Veterinary Technician at one of the largest animal hospitals in the U.S. Times are tough, but I am coping. All my animals are well taken care of and you better believe I would starve myself before ever letting my children/pets go hungry. I would love to add another bearded dragon to my household but is it the right time? No. I don't have the funds or the time to care for another pet. I used to run a rescue and recently due to becoming homeless and having major health issues it was in the best interest of the animals in my care to be rehomed, as bad as it hurt me inside. I knew they deserved better so I did the responsible thing and all found great loving homes, even Tony who I had been trying to adopt out for a year and a half! I even managed a way to make sure everyone was up to date on shots etc. before going to their new homes, because I owed them that much. After all, they did not ask for me to "rescue" them. They were MY responsibility. Now I'm on top of my game...anyone can do it. It might take awhile but it is possible. You just need to sacrifice, and sometimes sacrificing can mean doing something you really don't like. But that's life.

Well, my mom finds this whole idea rediculous and I don't think she gives a rat's butt if Gizzie is ever spayed, she just wants her out of here T_T. I've been doing everything so far. My mom wouldn't even call a rescue for me, she just wants to take Gizzie to the animal shelter and dump her.

Since page one it seems excuses have been made for why the family can't do this. First it was getting to a phone (it's not that hard to walk down to your local 711 or what have ya to use a payphone), then it was her mother not wanting her to call etc etc etc. She even said herself the mom just does not like the cat. What if we spay the pet and the mom just gets rid of the cat anyway?! Don't you think the animal deserves to be somewhere where it's stay at the house isn't in jeopardy every day? And I don't buy the excuse that nothing can be done to find this animal a home. Just because there is only a kill shelter around does not mean the animal has to go there. She has the internet and can easily place an ad online on Craigslist, maybe even in her local newspaper? Craigslist is free, and placing an ad in the paper isn't too spendy. I'm sure someone here would be willing to do that as well. How about making a flyer with the cats picture on it and posting it in your local vets office or pet shop?

I feel awful for you Bri, as you should not be the one having to deal with all of this. You are just 14 and it should be your mother's responsibility. If she knew you guys could not afford another pet she shouldn't have let you bring another into the house, plain and simple. I really hope everything works out in the favor of the pets. I know you would love to keep them, and I hope that your family situation gets better soon so that you may get to do that. But please, if you know you cannot care for them in the way they need it may be best to rehome them. I would hate for your mom to take someone to the shelter after so many people here have helped with her medical needs, so that the chances of her staying are better.

Ask yourself. What happens if Gizzy's behavior does not change after her spay? What if she keeps clawing furniture etc? Then what? Keep in mind, all of us here are just thinking of what is best for the pets.

[wolf_Q]

I agree completely with Kay and Staci. And to think about getting another pet (cockatiel) with all of this too?

In the past couple of months I have spent roughly $600 in vet bills for my dogs. Sure it would be nice to get some help with vet bills but I would never ask for that, I'm the one that made the commitment to having them. If there was an emergency I know Pet Talk would be there for me as they have for so many other people...I feel that is one of the most amazing things about this forum. But anyone who has a pet should be able to pay for spay/neuter and routine vet care.

[shais_mom]

I agree completely with Kay and Staci. And to think about getting another pet (cockatiel) with all of this too?

In the past couple of months I have spent roughly $600 in vet bills for my dogs. Sure it would be nice to get some help with vet bills but I would never ask for that, I'm the one that made the commitment to having them. If there was an emergency I know Pet Talk would be there for me as they have for so many other people...I feel that is one of the most amazing things about this forum. But anyone who has a pet should be able to pay for spay/neuter and routine vet care.

I agree - Keegan's abscess drainage alone was $222. And that was simple. Only one nite in the clinic. I could have had her spayed like TWICE or more for that!

[Vela]

WOW, it's pretty nice that Pet Talk can pay for someone else's pets. Wish someone could give me free handouts when it came to vet bills. I've had incredibly difficult times paying for vet bills in the past but I couldn't imagine asking anyone to pay for something that *I* brought on myself.

I work a low paying job and pay for all of the care and necessities of 4 large dogs, including vet, food, collars, toys, etc.

I understand an emergency (ex:Raven's Cancer) but this is something that every pet owner should be able to pay for - or they should not own animals.

I am glad her pets are getting the care they need now, though.

I was going to post the same thing last night but then I decided not to. I wasn't sure how to say it really I guess. Basic vet care is something you should be able to cover on your own or stop getting more animals and talking about getting more animals. The animals in the home were already NOT getting basic vet care before more were brought in and to me it's enabling them to get more pets and not have to take responsibility, rather than helping. Enabling is not helping in the end. I also found it pretty ballsy that after all of that was set up (which WAS/IS very kind of all of those set up in the first place), the OP actually requested MORE money and wanted to know if it was an ongoing fund so people could contniue to care for their pets???? Yes vet care is expensive, but it's not everyone elses responsbility. This is not an emergency that suddenly popped up, this is a long term ongoing problem.

I also am glad the pets are getting the care they need, but I see it setting up a bad pattern. So what happens next year for shots, heartworm testing and meds, etc etc? This started out as 35 dollars to spay one cat so it wasn't rehomed, and suddenly it's basic vet care for all of the animals to the tune of a thousand dollars, then they ask for MORE because they found worms??? Incredible.

I am very sorry about the hard time you guys have gone through, but if that's the case, even though you love your animals, if you can't provide the basic common care of owning them, sometimes the best thing you can do is rehome them. This is not a one time thing, this is a chronic problem and your animals have never gotten the vet care they need, and more keep being added. Just for the future, when some people are offering to do so much already, please don't ask for more, that is honestly in poor taste.


Edited to add: If this was an emergency, I would be happy to donate, but it is not. It's basic routine care and should be saved up for by the owners to do a little at a time, like everyone else has to do. LOTS of people have money problems, but you have to have priorities. If you can buy your cigarettes, cell phone, internet, etc. you ought to be able to set aside a few dollars to save up for vet care.

[Cinder & Smoke]

Basic vet care is something you should be able to cover on your own
or stop getting more animals and talking about getting more animals.

So what happens next year for shots, heartworm testing and meds, etc etc?

This started out as 35 dollars to spay one cat so it wasn't rehomed,
and suddenly it's basic vet care for all of the animals to the tune of a thousand dollars,
then they ask for MORE because they found worms???
Incredible.

This is not a one time thing, this is a chronic problem and
your animals have never gotten the vet care they need, and more keep being added.

If you can buy your cigarettes, cell phone, internet, etc.
you ought to be able to set aside a few dollars to save up for vet care.

Excellent points!

I tried to write a similar reply a few days ago; then thought better of it.
I don't want to appear to be jumping on when someone's down;
but this whole plan seems to be a stretch of the Pet Talker Good Will and
desire to help.

/s/ Phred

[Catty1]

I think when Bri asked if it was an ongoing fund - my impression was she was asking if it was a general fund for all pets at the clinic, not an endless fountain for her animals. She was answered that it was for her pets alone.

And, by rights, her mom should have all these questions - internet, smoking etc, - addressed to her - but Bri says she doesn't know how to use the computer.

Bri's initial post was to find Gizzy a home - I am sure rehoming offers would be valid, but the initial reaction to this by a couple of folks was to try and get Gizzy spayed so she would settle down and perhaps not have to be rehomed.

I initially had hoped that contributions could be made to pay for the Banfield Vet Wellness plan - VERY affordable by the month, and different plans cover different things. That wouldn't have cost anyone very much, and I am sure Bri and her mom could carry on with it afterwards, which is why I wanted to go that route. Just buy the appropriate wellness plan, and away we go - and if Bri and her mom could carry on afterwards, it WOULD be a hand up as opposed to a perceived handout.

For some reason, Dr Robinson, the vet at the Banfield where Bri lives, wanted to do this through his OWN clinic's fund - hence the $730.00.

Perhaps rehoming the pets should be a condition of this funding?

Anyone willing to adopt?

Suggestions welcome.

[kittycats_delight]

I am very disheartened by the way this thread is turning out. This thread was originally started to find Gizzie a new home as Catty1 already said. The problem was no one had any suggestions. The shelter in Bri's area is a KILL shelter and to stop Gizzie from being tossed into a KILL shelter and 9 chances out of 10 ending up dead which she certainly does deserve the suggestion of spaying Gizzie was brought up. If donated a couple of bucks to save this cats life was the solution then so be it. I would rather see that happen than poor Gizzie lose her life through no fault of her own.

Yes their vaccinations and spays should have been something that was dealt with but there were unforeseen circumstances in this situation that happened after the animals were obtained. Bri had both cats and dogs before things turned bad. Her mom lost her job, they had a break in and lost a lot of things and almost got evicted. It has been a long climb for her mom (a single mother) to get back on her feet.

I think considering if anyone can come up with a better solution here I would love to hear it. And like I said before if it means Gizzie losing her life or putting up a few buck to get her spayed then I vote for the few bucks. I have already voluteered to help from the beginning. I don't want to see this cat killed because we feel they were not responsible. That doesn't make things right by any means.

If you don't want to help don't. If you have other suggestions as to how to solve this please say so but do not slam a 14 year old child and single mother for this. And with all due respect Bri is 14 what kind of job do you honestly think she can get to be able to pay a vet bill of $730? And considering her mom is not steadily employed now don't you think it will be possible if she does get a job that some of her money will have to go to help keep them afloat?


Michelle