Please help!

[tikeyas_mom]

My mom used to breed English Cocker Spaniels. W had three at once, one was a show dog.. And They are somwhat playfull/hyper, BUT they are very stubbhorn and hard to train.. Its like they forget what they have just been thought, I foud it took WAYYYY longer to train our cockers then it did to train our Shihtzu... I would suggest taking a look at the homless dogs at your local shelter. You might find your perfect match. No dogs are born with the natural ability to "heal" on a lead, or to never run away.. You have to spend time training a puppy/dog those things.

[Whisk_Luva]

Ok....... pugs and shihtzus my mum hates... and my dad...!!!!

We have been to a few shelters and rung others

Say if the cross breed was part collie, it would be bouncy etc.

King charles... my mum thinks there very yappy? Are they? Because we like the look of them and they seem ok apart from that.

We know not every dog of the same breed is going to be the same but its nice to get a rough idea.

luvofallhorses I live in wiltshire in England. Does pet finder even work in England?

By the lead thing we mean kinda... the breed is usually good on the lead, like collies are big and bouncy so they often pull but a golden retriever isnt as bouncy so wouldnt pull as much.

Thanks for your help so far! Keep it coming!

[Marigold2]

Hi Ellie,
I would get a book from the library that explans different breeds and how they react. Of course not every lab will be gentle and not every sheperd will be aggressive. It really depends on how they were raised and treated. If the poor dog was abused it will be more difficult to live with and train. A lot of dogs are given to shelters because the owners die or move, not becasue the dog was bad. Getting a book that explains different breeds would be my first step.
Good luck and have fun.
Another thought, perhaps a senior dog would be a better find then a puppy.
Puppies will pee in the house and will chew on the furniture, not all but most.
A dog is not perfect, it's like another child, patience is the most important thing, all dogs will make mistakes.

[Hellow]

Yes, i understant the hate thing because Pugs shead alot! But they are very cute. That dog in my siggie is a pug and my avitar.

[luvofallhorses]

I am not sure if it does. they have

British Columbia, Alberta, and Novia Scotia are any of those in England?

[Whisk_Luva]

Uh.... dunno lol!

I dont think is does... *Sigh*

[wolfsoul]

British Columbia, Alberta, and Novia Scotia are any of those in England?

Those are all in Canada.

I have never found the king charles to be yappy. I've actually found them to be very quiet and sweet dogs. I've only met a few English cockers and haven't enjoyed my experience with them so far. I much prefer the American cocker. Please remember -- that just because cockers are not necessarily "hyper," does not mean that they don't need ALOT of exercise. They were originally bred to be very active and energetic dogs, and though they may not ask to go for a walk, they NEED to be walked often or they may become overweight and unhealthy or destructive.

[Genny]

I was thinking--what about a Bichon Frise? I know some people who have a few of them and they are really sweet and gentle dogs. I just love them to death!

[Whisk_Luva]

Yep! I know all about there exercing stuff!

My mum still seems to think that kc spaniels are yappy...

Anyone else tell me anything aobut them?

Any other good breeds?

[ParNone]

By the lead thing we mean kinda... the breed is usually good on the lead, like collies are big and bouncy so they often pull but a golden retriever isnt as bouncy so wouldnt pull as much.

I'm assuming since you didn't specify Border or Beardie etc., that you're referring to Rough and Smooth Collies... the Lassie type... Which are the ones usually referred to as just Collies.

In which case, you're characterization is way off. Hyper, Bouncy or heavy pullers would in no way describe a Collie. Since they're a herding breed they do need exercise, but I have no problem tiring my 2 Collies out with 5 mins of frisbee. They pace themselves exercise wise, so they could last a long time out in the field herding or walking with you, but frenetic, hyper, bouncy.. uh no.. they won't sustain that for long. I wish they would. I'd be up for longer the 5 mins of frisbee at a time, but it just isn't to be with a Collie.

As to pulling, they're a soft breed. Any resistance and they will stop what they're doing. So they're very easy to train to heel and are not known to be heavy pullers on the leash or even in games like tug of war. Very gentile. My 20Lb terrier can beat them out in tug and they out weigh him by 60+ Lbs.

Anywho, I'm in no way recommending a Collie to you, because based on other statements you've made in the thread, they'd be way too Barky for you. But for others who may be reading the thread, I didn't want them to go away with the wrong impression of Collies, generally speaking.

If you want a quiet, laid back breed, consider a Rescue Greyhound. They're known as the fastest Couch Potato.

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[K9soul]

Neither of my RB collies ever pulled. My golden, however, is another story .