Words well spoken...Recieved in Email

**Lady's Human** · 05-07-2007, 07:56 PM

There's a difference, ES.

The American Academy of Pediatrics has an ax to grind. They have been on the HCI side of the debate for as long as I can remember. They came out with a survey that Pediatricians were supposed to give to their patients' parents asking about guns in the home. If I ever get given that survey by a doctor I'm finding a new Doc.

The FBI doesn't have an agenda. Their annual crime statistics report is just that. Statistics. X offenses of Y type per 100 or 1000 people in a given municipality. It is a very dry document. If crime goes up, it states so in the report. If crime goes down, it does the same. The report is done by career civil servants, not political appointees. It's almost impossible to fire them, so there's little leverage available to get them to massage the figures.

I will not stay in a home where there are handguns. It is too dangerous

I guess you won't be coming for dinner, then.

**Edwina's Secretary** · 05-07-2007, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Lady's Human

There's a difference, ES.

The American Academy of Pediatrics has an ax to grind. They have been on the HCI side of the debate for as long as I can remember. They came out with a survey that Pediatricians were supposed to give to their patients' parents asking about guns in the home. If I ever get given that survey by a doctor I'm finding a new Doc.

The FBI doesn't have an agenda. Their annual crime statistics report is just that. Statistics. X offenses of Y type per 100 or 1000 people in a given municipality. It is a very dry document. If crime goes up, it states so in the report. If crime goes down, it does the same. The report is done by career civil servants, not political appointees. It's almost impossible to fire them, so there's little leverage available to get them to massage the figures.

I guess you won't be coming for dinner, then.

I am sure the dinner would have been delicious....Pediatricians have an ax to grind. Wow! How about radiologist? They suspect too? ...it seems anyone holding an opinion contrary to yours is suspect. Ever notice that?

With that...I don't trust the FBI....I am a child of the Viet Nam Era...NEVER trust the Feds....

Go see the movie about Hanssen....career civil servants....worse than pediatrician...(with apology to my brother...)

Is it possible peds care about children? Nawwww...just politics....

**Lady's Human** · 05-07-2007, 09:08 PM

In regards to their "caring" survey, I don't give a damn why they put anything in their survey. What need does a doc have for the information?

None.

You don't trust civil servants, but you trust the media? Now THERE is a problem.

I wouldn't trust a modern reporter to get the color of the sky correct, and if they did by some miracle happen to report that the sky was indeed blue, I'd be running for a window to double check. I've seen the media get too many things wrong and tell 1/2 of the story too many times.

**RICHARD** · 05-07-2007, 11:23 PM

I guess no one noticed the students at VT who were in uniform.

I don't know if they are part of a cadet corp, ROTC or ? on campus.
I thought to myself that one cadet with a CW..

I guess allowing people to pack heat on a COLLEGE campus (with all the bells, whistles, pomp and circumstance. of course) and having someone produce a firearm and busting caps-maybe stopping the toll at 15 or 20- would have been out of the question?

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Don't throw out the baby in the crib with the bullet type.

There are a few different kinds of bullets.

Jacketed, hollow point, lead, copper-

Each has a different "use" and consequence.

Hollow point flatten on impact. Telfon coated (mostly illegal to all) are used to defeat body armor. Some police depts MANDATE what type of ammo they use, to cut down on 'innocent baby deaths'. Look at all the ammo the North Hollywood Shootout robbers used- no one wa killed.

I drove the neighborhood the next day- Find a concrete light pole, take your fist, hold it over a section of that pole and picture a chunk that big missing from it. The LAPD also makes a show of parading around two of the squad cars that were shot up. Not really confidence inspiring since they use them at the recruiting booths. The thugs used armor piercing bullets that day.

Contrary to popular belief, not all shootings happen in Hollywood-for some reason bullets behave differently there!

**RICHARD** · 05-08-2007, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by Ceph

Richard...I am one of those Cadets...Matt LaPorte was one of those cadets....

Words are hollow, but I am truly sorry about the pain that has visited your world.

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There was one radio moron who was critical of the victims-"why didn't anyone rush Cho?" From what the media reported-I know, what to believe coming from that estate-When he bought the 9mm he also purchased 50 rounds of hollow point ammo- Hollow point rounds are really brutal -just as brutal as the rounds coming out of an assault rifle.

The moron jock was suspended from his gig

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About the coverage.

That AH Karan Grewal made every outlet- One cable network even did an hour 'special' and that little maggot made it on their airwaves....

Sad to think that these idiots refuse to STFU!

**Edwina's Secretary** · 05-08-2007, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by RICHARD

When he bought the 9mm he also purchased 50 rounds of hollow point ammo- Hollow point rounds are really brutal -just as brutal as the rounds coming out of an assault rifle.

Be sure and thank the NRA for his ability to purchase hollow point ammo! Constitutional Right you know!

**RICHARD** · 05-08-2007, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

Be sure and thank the NRA for his ability to purchase hollow point ammo! Constitutional Right you know!

Do I have time to thank VA for not letting people carry CWs on a campus.
And the factions that do not want schools to toss kids out because they are loony, The system that says this loon was goofy, signing a paper saying he was a danger to himself, but NOT being able to do anything about it?

I really hate to trivialize this incident, but I thought about this a few days after the shootings.

If someone had a raging case of crabs or herpes or ? and infected a whole slew of students - What can be done about that? Remember the HIPPA rules?You just can't 'out' people because of what is in their medical records.

While we are at it...
What about the idiots who lived with this kook for months but left him alone
because they thought he was different?

Trust me, I have worked with people that were off center and I made sure that people knew about it

I worked with a friiggen goofball reserve cop from some little city department.
She'd sit at her desk and paint faces on the bullets from her carry-on piece-I told my boss about it and there was nothing that she could do. I thought, "Oh well, I could always walk one flight upstairs to the ER if I ever need a .32 hollow point taken out...."

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For the record,

HIPPA rules are very stringent rules regarding a person's medical history.
IF YOU HAPPEN to work in any medical enviroment where you have access to someone's medical history and you release it, you are screwed.,

People, who don't want the government to look into their private lives, computers, bank records and phone lines have to shoulder a little of the blame.

I mean, what does your psych records have to do with buying a gun?

Guns don't kill people, bullets do.