Words well spoken...Recieved in Email

[wombat2u2004]

We are ALL not christians, although I would venture that most on this board are of a humanitarian nature.

Well thankyou Doc....now I can completely disregard my ex's statement that I was animal when we were married.
Now I can rest easy
Wom

[Edwina's Secretary]

There are lots of countries with more restrictive hand gun controls than the US....they also don't seem to have as many crazed people running around shooting up school children.

Yes, I would like to see a ban on handguns. Especially concealed handguns. Especially any rapid-fire, semi-automatic...however you want to call them - instruments of death.

And no I am not advocating trampling on any constititutional rights. I am not suggesting disarming the militia. Nor am I suggesting muzzling the press.

[Randi]

I'd like to see a ban on all guns across the entire world! In fact I'd like to see a law against producing guns!

It seems a lot of people want to own a gun to be able to protect themselves.

I met a girl from Texas a couple of years ago, she told me that she couldn't sleep, unless she had a gun "under her pillow". Isn't that sad!!

If you walk down a dark alley with a gun in your pocket and feel threatened, don't you think you'd use it?

[Lady's Human]

A ban on concealed carry permits even though FBI crime stats show time and again that after states pass CCW laws crime rates go down?

There's a testimonial to emotion triumphing over logic.

The states/cities with the most restrictive gun laws in the country are also home to some of the highest crime rates. NYC, Washington, DC, LA.......

Yep, them thar gun bans really do the trick.


Criminals LOVE unarmed victims.

[sparks19]

A ban on concealed carry permits even though FBI crime stats show time and again that after states pass CCW laws crime rates go down?

There's a testimonial to emotion triumphing over logic.

The states/cities with the most restrictive gun laws in the country are also home to some of the highest crime rates. NYC, Washington, DC, LA.......

Yep, them thar gun bans really do the trick.


Criminals LOVE unarmed victims.

Just like Canada. it takes an act of God to get a handgun.... yet gun crime is on the rise. Goes up every year.

[Edwina's Secretary]

A ban on concealed carry permits even though FBI crime stats show time and again that after states pass CCW laws crime rates go down?

There's a testimonial to emotion triumphing over logic.

The states/cities with the most restrictive gun laws in the country are also home to some of the highest crime rates. NYC, Washington, DC, LA.......

Yep, them thar gun bans really do the trick.


Criminals LOVE unarmed victims.

I hope those stats weren't published by the MEDIA! You know how unreliable the media is!...

I think if concealed weapons are going to be allowed...we should issue weapons upon graduation from grade school...everybody gets one...it levels the playing field...

[sparks19]

I hope those stats weren't published by the MEDIA! You know how unreliable the media is!...

I think if concealed weapons are going to be allowed...we should issue weapons upon graduation from grade school...everybody gets one...it levels the playing field...

Upon proper completion of the requirements... perhaps

[DrKym]

Well thankyou Doc....now I can completely disregard my ex's statement that I was animal when we were married.
Now I can rest easy
Wom

I did qualify it Wom...I said MOST!

Doc

[Lady's Human]

Actually, ES, they are unfiltered numbers direct from the FBI annual crime stat report. Anyone can look up the data on the web and look at the trends themselves.

Here is a link to one report extracted from FBI crime data, complete with references to where the data was taken from and what year the data was taken from :

http://www.rkba.org/ccw/stat

The Governor of Michigan, who was VERY anti CCW, had a concealed carry law pushed through the legislature against her wishes. She is now a convert after seeing the results of the legislation.

I firmly believe anyone who can pass legal qualifications and demonstrates skill with a firearm (safe handling, safe storage, etc) should be able to get a CCW permit. I see no reason to prevent law abiding citizens from having access to the means to defend themselves and their homes if they choose to exercise their right to do so.

[lizbud]

The Governor of Michigan, who was VERY anti CCW, had a concealed carry law pushed through the legislature against her wishes. She is now a convert after seeing the results of the legislation.

I believe she's a Democrat too. I am ok with people owning a handgun
if they are qualified to buy one. I own one myself. It's the auto weapons
with the ability to rip a crowd to bits that scares me. They should not be
sold to the public.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Oh goodness...you don't believe the FBI statistics do you? Worse than the media.....

A wild west shootout....what a lovely thought. Lots of innocent bystanders can get shot too! Bullets whizzing through walls into babies's cribs....

We already know that the existing laws are ineffectual in keeping people with mental illness from buying guns "legally"....e.g. Virginia Tech...

and you want to put MORE guns on the streets....

I will not stay in a home where there are handguns. It is too dangerous. I left my cousin's home when I found out her husband keeps handguns around.

There are LOTS of statistics on how dangerous a home is with handguns in it as compare to a home without. According to the American Academy of Pediatrics -- in a home with handguns it is much more likely the gun will be used in a suicide, domestic dispute or accidental shooting than in self-defense.

[Lady's Human]

There's a difference, ES.

The American Academy of Pediatrics has an ax to grind. They have been on the HCI side of the debate for as long as I can remember. They came out with a survey that Pediatricians were supposed to give to their patients' parents asking about guns in the home. If I ever get given that survey by a doctor I'm finding a new Doc.

The FBI doesn't have an agenda. Their annual crime statistics report is just that. Statistics. X offenses of Y type per 100 or 1000 people in a given municipality. It is a very dry document. If crime goes up, it states so in the report. If crime goes down, it does the same. The report is done by career civil servants, not political appointees. It's almost impossible to fire them, so there's little leverage available to get them to massage the figures.

I will not stay in a home where there are handguns. It is too dangerous

I guess you won't be coming for dinner, then.

[Edwina's Secretary]

There's a difference, ES.

The American Academy of Pediatrics has an ax to grind. They have been on the HCI side of the debate for as long as I can remember. They came out with a survey that Pediatricians were supposed to give to their patients' parents asking about guns in the home. If I ever get given that survey by a doctor I'm finding a new Doc.

The FBI doesn't have an agenda. Their annual crime statistics report is just that. Statistics. X offenses of Y type per 100 or 1000 people in a given municipality. It is a very dry document. If crime goes up, it states so in the report. If crime goes down, it does the same. The report is done by career civil servants, not political appointees. It's almost impossible to fire them, so there's little leverage available to get them to massage the figures.



I guess you won't be coming for dinner, then.

I am sure the dinner would have been delicious....Pediatricians have an ax to grind. Wow! How about radiologist? They suspect too? ...it seems anyone holding an opinion contrary to yours is suspect. Ever notice that?

With that...I don't trust the FBI....I am a child of the Viet Nam Era...NEVER trust the Feds.... Go see the movie about Hanssen....career civil servants....worse than pediatrician...(with apology to my brother...)

Is it possible peds care about children? Nawwww...just politics....

[Lady's Human]

In regards to their "caring" survey, I don't give a damn why they put anything in their survey. What need does a doc have for the information?

None.

You don't trust civil servants, but you trust the media? Now THERE is a problem.

I wouldn't trust a modern reporter to get the color of the sky correct, and if they did by some miracle happen to report that the sky was indeed blue, I'd be running for a window to double check. I've seen the media get too many things wrong and tell 1/2 of the story too many times.

[RICHARD]

I will not stay in a home where there are handguns. It is too dangerous.

CHECK THIS OUT!

I am afraid of hand held power tools now...


Some guy mutilated a woman with a circular saw.....THEN KILLED DHIMSELF WITH IT!


I'm getting kinda nervous....There is a router just outside the door...