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    What about the giant loophole for buying at gun shows?

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    What giant loophole for buying at gun shows?

    Media myth.

    If the seller is a licensed federal dealer (as most are), NICS and other checks still apply.

    The paperwork still has to be processed and approved.

    Of course, due to a decision of the SCOTUS the paperwork really doesn't matter, as they decided that lying on the forms is fine, as being truthful would be self incrimination for a felon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    What giant loophole for buying at gun shows?

    Media myth.

    If the seller is a licensed federal dealer (as most are), NICS and other checks still apply.

    The paperwork still has to be processed and approved.

    Of course, due to a decision of the SCOTUS the paperwork really doesn't matter, as they decided that lying on the forms is fine, as being truthful would be self incrimination for a felon.
    +1

    I bought a Semi Automatic FAL a few years ago at a gun show. Had to go through the same exact checks I would if I had bought it at a shop. As it should be.
    "Unlike most of you, I am not a nut."

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    Will somebody give me one reason why a private individual would have
    need of an automatic weapon?
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    Competition

    Collecting/re-enactment

    Employment (No, those jobs aren't in the help wanted section of the newspaper)

    There are relatively few legal full auto weapons in the US, as they cannot be manufactured for civilian sale (I forget the cutoff date, but it is many years ago that the manufacture and importation of F/A weapons for civilian sale was banned).

    The people who legally own them are some of the most stable, sane people you would ever meet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    Competition

    Collecting/re-enactment

    Employment (No, those jobs aren't in the help wanted section of the newspaper)

    There are relatively few legal full auto weapons in the US, as they cannot be manufactured for civilian sale (I forget the cutoff date, but it is many years ago that the manufacture and importation of F/A weapons for civilian sale was banned).

    The people who legally own them are some of the most stable, sane people you would ever meet.
    #1 Collecting? re-enactment of what event?

    #2 Only employer I can think of would be Secret Service or general Law
    Enforcement.

    There must be a large & thriving underground in trade & sale of these kind
    of weapons.They are the weapon of choice for all the nuts cases that make
    national news.
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    The national news blows it on a routine basis when reporting most incidents. Most of the time when they report an "AK-47" or "M-16" used in a crime, it isn't. It may be a semi-auto lookalike, but M-16's and AK's are rare birds.

    Most crimes are not committed with fully automatic weapons. Semi autos? Yup. Legally purchased weapons? Somewhat less than 5% of all crimes are committed with legally purchased weapons. (FBI Stat, I don't have time to go looking for the exact % at the moment)

    It really doesn't make a difference whether it's a single shot rifle or a machine gun. It's the person, not the tool. I could probably cause more damage with a single shot rifle than many criminals can cause with a fully auto firearm.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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