I can't say I'm Sorry

**Pawsitive Thinking** · 05-02-2007, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Puckstop31

So what you are saying is that a person cannot use their personal belief system in debate if that system is driven by faith?

My entire point in this debate, that humans have been given all of creation as a gift and that such a gift is ours to use, RESPONSIBLY; is driven entirely by my faith.

Thus, by the logic you use here I could not even participate in this "debate". Is this what you are saying? I am not trying to be aggressive here, I just want to know if that is what you mean.

Thank you.

I understand what you are saying. You obviously have a strong faith which works for you and is great and I think that all views should be expressed in a debate. I just find it hard to accept quotes from a "book" as the basis of an argument. You see, I am not sure if I have a faith or belief and cannot get my head round being given the gift of creation. Who gave it to us? Your faith means you are convinced it was God but me.............I'm just baffled. Just because its written down and millions of people believe it to be true doesn't mean that it is - but people also believed that the world was flat until it was proved otherwise.

However, if I disappear from the face of the earth tonight I will be convinced by your point of view

**sparks19** · 05-02-2007, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Brody's Mum

I understand what you are saying. You obviously have a strong faith which works for you and is great and I think that all views should be expressed in a debate. I just find it hard to accept quotes from a "book" as the basis of an argument. You see, I am not sure if I have a faith or belief and cannot get my head round being given the gift of creation. Who gave it to us? Your faith means you are convinced it was God but me.............I'm just baffled. Just because its written down and millions of people believe it to be true doesn't mean that it is - but people also believed that the world was flat until it was proved otherwise.

However, if I disappear from the face of the earth tonight I will be convinced by your point of view

FWIW, my faith is not driven by a book. I did not sit down... read the bible and think "hey this sounds good to me I'll just go with it"

My faith is driven by what I have felt and experienced.... it is very hard to explain but my faith is based on my encounters with God. It sounds strange to someone who hasn't experienced it or doesn't know they have experienced it.... but to me it is more real than the nose on my face. Not because some book tells me so... but because of my experiences with God. Again.... sounds strange but to me it is real.

BTW, winnie the pooh is real

although I suppose the original Pooh is sadly no longer around... but he was a real bear

lol and Christopher Robin a real boy. OK.... I know entirely too much useless winnie the pooh info. ha

**Pawsitive Thinking** · 05-03-2007, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by sparks19

FWIW, my faith is not driven by a book. I did not sit down... read the bible and think "hey this sounds good to me I'll just go with it"

My faith is driven by what I have felt and experienced.... it is very hard to explain but my faith is based on my encounters with God. It sounds strange to someone who hasn't experienced it or doesn't know they have experienced it.... but to me it is more real than the nose on my face. Not because some book tells me so... but because of my experiences with God. Again.... sounds strange but to me it is real.

BTW, winnie the pooh is real

although I suppose the original Pooh is sadly no longer around... but he was a real bear

lol and Christopher Robin a real boy. OK.... I know entirely too much useless winnie the pooh info. ha

Originally Posted by Brody's Mum

However, if I disappear from the face of the earth tonight I will be convinced by your point of view

Still here folks

Sparks: In the same way that my lack of faith is driven by what I have felt and experienced I guess. Maybe I will "follow the bear"

Any news on Piglet?

Lizbud: From my point of view I don't feel that I have attacked anyone or been attacked by anyone in this thread. I feel that I was able to express my view and that the answers I received were very well considered and well written.

Each to their own

**sparks19** · 05-03-2007, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by Brody's Mum

Still here folks

Sparks: In the same way that my lack of faith is driven by what I have felt and experienced I guess. Maybe I will "follow the bear"

Any news on Piglet?

Lizbud: From my point of view I don't feel that I have attacked anyone or been attacked by anyone in this thread. I feel that I was able to express my view and that the answers I received were very well considered and well written.

Each to their own

LOL.... Piglet? hmmmm I will have to look into that

haha. I personally hope eeyore is real.... he's cute.

I just remember it was a "part of our heritage" commercial. I think he was a black bear originally

and Christpher Robin loved him so much they wrote a book about him. He's named after Winnipeg lol... hence Winnie. I'm such a nerd lol.