well see I would love to drive that far but I can't. It's complicated. I have to find somthing near to me. That Petstore that I was talking about is very good when it comes to breeding gerbils. They keep the dad in the cage and they call it a breeding pair. Some stores take the dad out and say that its mom and babies. They abviously don't know anything about how to breed gerbils so I don't even think about going there. Although I do know a pet store that doesn't breed their gerbils. If you go there they have two tanks one for males and one for females. and that's all you see. I think I'll go there and then go to the one that breeds them professionly. Wow! I just solved my problem. Thanks for your help!