Cross between a mini schnauzer and a soft coated Wheaten Terrier

**luvofallhorses** · 04-12-2007, 11:51 AM

Bre,

not all shelters microchip. however, I know most rescues do microchip.
we microchip at the shelter where I volunteer and animals that
are re-claimed as well, of course it's optional for them to microchip, but
we do microchip, because a lot of people are losing their animals these days.
It doesn't cost extra..it does for the cats because it is optional for the cats to be microchipped as we are hoping they will be indoors..

it's included in the adoption fee with the dogs, though, as long with a free month of health insurance, a free exam from your vet that is good for 2 weeks, and we include a small bag of food as well and a identification tag.. and of course they have to leave spayed or neutered, too and we give them shots for distemper and bordetella (kennel cough) and worm them. all you have to get is rabies and if they have to be on meds because they get tapeworms or whatever, we include a copy of the med sheet to take with them to the vet.

**Reachoutrescue** · 04-14-2007, 01:47 AM

I, too, agree. You should not cross breed different breeds, it can really have some bad side affects. Not mention (as everyone else did) there are so many unwanted pups and dogs in shelters and pounds just days away from being euthanized. Remember....DON'T BREED OR BUY WHEN A SHELTER PET DIES... Words to live by. We microchip here as well, it is safer for the pet if he/she gets lost.

**xVelvet_FuzzButtx** · 04-23-2007, 06:07 AM

I'd like to add that that they are NOT hybrids. I *hate* seeing websites and BYB breeders say their mutts are hybrids because they took two pure bred dogs and mixed them. Its as bad if not worse than designer dog "breeds". It misinforms a lot of people. The guy who started massbreeding puggles says he "invented" the hybrid breed!!

geez.

Sometimes you get luck and find exactly a half & half cross:
our Alaskan Malamute x Cardigan welsh corgi is a perfect example.
she IS however very stubborn and Very hyper/active. like both breeds.
an SPCA rescue.

**xVelvet_FuzzButtx** · 04-23-2007, 06:10 AM

I checked www.petfinder.com really quick and found several schnauzer/wheaton mixes btw..

**flipgirl** · 05-03-2007, 09:57 PM

Thank you for all your replies and now that I've read them I will surely not go looking for a breeder of such a mix. I'm a new dog owner and I would love to have both a wheaton terrier and a mini schnauzer as I love both breeds...well there are not many breeds I don't like. I would certainly not like to contribute to the many dogs that are killed or abandoned due to their unpredictablity and am aware that people will mix breeds for money...I was just wondering what other objections there would be. But thanks for setting me straight....a wheaton/schnauzer mix would certainly be more than a handful. If I had to choose between a wheaton and a schnauzer, I don't know which one I would choose! But that is not to say that I wouldn't rescue a dog either! Again thanks for the information...

**Jakesmom** · 05-04-2007, 09:12 PM

Both are terriers, and hence, well, they're terriers--stubborn, smart, and active. Personally, I love wheatons. We had one who had been raised by someone who was up to raising a terrier (that wouldn't be me), and we got him when he was 8 (his original owners couldn't keep him anymore). He was a wonderful dog, very sweet, loving, determined as all get out, an incredibly mentally tough dog. My observation is wheatons are very determinted and energetic, but not as hyper as the mini or standard schnauzers (though I've never owned a schnauzer, just observed them in dog parks).

Wheatons do have some health issues, however, especially congenital renal disease, so if you go with a wheaton, check into the breeding carefully.

jake's mom

**wolfsoul** · 05-04-2007, 09:31 PM

The breeds are incredibly alike in temperament. I am a dog groomer and schnauzers and wheatons are both very popular reeds that come into the shop. I always say that wheatons are just like big schnauzers. No other breeds consistently freak out when you try to pick them up lol.

Since they are so much alike I would say just get a purebred of one or both (but not to breed together). Breeding mixes is irrespnsible. Too many dogs in shelters -- people should be breeding to better a breed, not to create more.

**IRescue452** · 04-22-2009, 02:00 PM

Do you realize that a wheaton-colored standard schnauzer would be the exact same thing? That's basically what you're looking for isn't it? Wheaton-colored purebred schnauzers do exist.

**Jags mom** · 07-14-2009, 06:27 PM

One thing that i would object to with the mixing or those 2 breeds is the coat they will have when they reach adulthood. As a groomer we have run into a lot of dogs crossed with one or the other, most crossed with schnauzers are really homley looking dogs(cute as pups), and sadly there are so many owners that are too judgmental and get rid of it. And wheatons have a high mantinace coat that matts really really easy and tight, even i would not own a wheaton or cross for that reason, and their personality is not one that most tolerate, from what i have seen and heard. Not saying that you wouldnt take care of it, but there are A LOT of ppl out there that wouldnt.

**Twisterdog** · 01-28-2008, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by flipgirl

Thank you for all your replies and now that I've read them I will surely not go looking for a breeder of such a mix. I'm a new dog owner and I would love to have both a wheaton terrier and a mini schnauzer as I love both breeds...well there are not many breeds I don't like. I would certainly not like to contribute to the many dogs that are killed or abandoned due to their unpredictablity and am aware that people will mix breeds for money...I was just wondering what other objections there would be. But thanks for setting me straight....a wheaton/schnauzer mix would certainly be more than a handful. If I had to choose between a wheaton and a schnauzer, I don't know which one I would choose! But that is not to say that I wouldn't rescue a dog either! Again thanks for the information...

Wow, it's SO nice and refreshing to see someone listen and take others' opinions into consideration without getting defensive! My congratulations for your open-mindedness.

As for choosing between the two, adopt one of each from a shelter instead!

I also agree with what everyone else said. You don't always get "the best of both worlds" when crossing breeds, in fact, I would say you practically NEVER get a 50/50 split of traits, good or bad. I happen to like Italian greyhounds and English bulldogs. Can you imagine crossing the two and hoping to get the best of each? Perish that thought!

Kelly444 - I'm sure you have a lovely, wonderful dog. I happen to have a few lovely, wonderful, smart crossbreeds as well. But they are not "breeds". They are mutts. A crossbred, with two distinct purebreds as parents, or a Heinz 57 pooch, with dozens upons dozens of different dogs in its ancestory ... they are both mutts, mixed breeds, whichever term you prefer. Mixed breeds are great. I own four. I adopted them all and saved their lives. However, to intentionally breed mixed breed dogs is beyond irresponsible, when tens of thousands are dying in shelters, and starving in alleys.

**flipgirl** · 02-20-2008, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Twisterdog

Wow, it's SO nice and refreshing to see someone listen and take others' opinions into consideration without getting defensive! My congratulations for your open-mindedness.

As for choosing between the two, adopt one of each from a shelter instead!

I also agree with what everyone else said. You don't always get "the best of both worlds" when crossing breeds, in fact, I would say you practically NEVER get a 50/50 split of traits, good or bad. I happen to like Italian greyhounds and English bulldogs. Can you imagine crossing the two and hoping to get the best of each? Perish that thought!

Kelly444 - I'm sure you have a lovely, wonderful dog. I happen to have a few lovely, wonderful, smart crossbreeds as well. But they are not "breeds". They are mutts. A crossbred, with two distinct purebreds as parents, or a Heinz 57 pooch, with dozens upons dozens of different dogs in its ancestory ... they are both mutts, mixed breeds, whichever term you prefer. Mixed breeds are great. I own four. I adopted them all and saved their lives. However, to intentionally breed mixed breed dogs is beyond irresponsible, when tens of thousands are dying in shelters, and starving in alleys.

Well thanks Twister....when I wrote that first quote, I was totally naive and uneducated about dogdom - now I'm a little more educated - I'm glad I have this forum to get straight answers!

I would love to get one of each but that will have to wait until I get a bigger place. I know a few wheatons (my groomer has 3 and my friend has one) and I know a mini schnauzer and I fell in love with them instantly. But I also love Olde English Sheepdogs, Old English bulldogs, American Staffordshire Terriers, Boxers, labs, etc etc!!! So I guess education comes at a price!! haha

I think it's interesting that with all the attention given to the Ellen DeGeneres debaucle, more attention was given to the issue of puppy mills and pet stores but such progress was halted by the Paris Hilton's of society. Who, by the way, just admitted to having 17 dogs and also abandoned a cat at her vet's. I wish I knew then what I know now but then a lot of people would not have learned from all the replies my original post generated!

I'm also glad that there are people like you that adopt these mutts from shelters and rescues - it sure takes a special person to do that. I have actually tried three times to adopt a dog but because of the size of my place, it wasn't feasible. I go on the websites of the shelters around my area and I cannot believe the number of mutts there are...In Toronto, where I work, they are reducing the funding given to shelters so there will be a lot of abandoned animals roaming the streets. What I would give to rescue these poor dogs! Honestly, having a dog has made me realize that dogs are more 'human' than some humans themselves!!!

**Tora Oni** · 07-26-2009, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by xVelvet_FuzzButtx

I'd like to add that that they are NOT hybrids. I *hate* seeing websites and BYB breeders say their mutts are hybrids because they took two pure bred dogs and mixed them. Its as bad if not worse than designer dog "breeds". It misinforms a lot of people. The guy who started massbreeding puggles says he "invented" the hybrid breed!!

geez.

Sometimes you get luck and find exactly a half & half cross:
our Alaskan Malamute x Cardigan welsh corgi is a perfect example.
she IS however very stubborn and Very hyper/active. like both breeds.
an SPCA rescue.

I've seen another dog like that His name is Nico he is in a Kentucky Humans society commercial. His fur is a little longer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUUXTU-UkSI Though I'm not 100% sure he is a half and half mix. Though he looks like yours.

I would look for a schnauzer mix since they seem to be more of them around in the shelters since they do seem to be rather popular dog. Though around here I know we have a rescue just for Schnauzers.