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    First of all, let me tell you, no one in the world loves animals more than me, and it wouldn't be a pretty site if I came face to face with someone who hurt them.

    Now, to get down to the good stuff.

    If this were dangerous to the chicks health, then scientists wouldn't do this to birds of endangered species to track the beginning of their life in the wild.
    And the harmless vegetable dye isn't injected into the bird embryo itself. It is injected into the yolk so it can be absorbed by the developing fur. It isn't absorbed into the skin itself, if it were, then the skin of the bird would stay that color for the rest of its life, but it doesn't. The color disappears when then first feathers fall out. So I definately wouldn't say this is dangerous to the chicks. I am perfectly fine with scientists doing this so that they can study early bird life in the wild. I'm all about saving wildlife!!!!!!!!!!!

    I only have a problem with it when people dye them for money or if they dye them in a manner harmful to the chick.

    I myself am about to start incubating my own chicken eggs for the experience and I would like to dye the chicks because they would look cool. But, I already have good homes that they will go to with people who have a farm with chickens already. And, I am going to raise them for a while first, so by the time I give them away, not sell them, their colors will be gone. I see absoultely no harm in dying them because I'm going to use a teeny tiny sterile needle to do it and I'm going to properly sterilize the egg before and after. Then I will seal the almost microscopic hole it will make.

    If you still disagree with dying chicks the way I mentioned here and for the same reasons I mentioned here then I would like to know why, so please post a response to this if you disagree.
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    Uh excuse me. We all love animals, I dont think its right to say you love them all more than us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisk_Luva
    Uh excuse me. We all love animals, I dont think its right to say you love them all more than us.
    Ya no kidding...

    I just thought of something I wanted to say though. Someone (I can't remember who) said if god wanted odd coloured (pink,green,blue etc) animals he would make them those colours. So dose that mean you (who ever said that) don't agree with people dying their hair those colours? It's the same thing.

    If this were dangerous to the chicks health, then scientists wouldn't do this to birds of endangered species to track the beginning of their life in the wild.
    Please tell me your kidding..What makes you think scientist wouldn't do that? They put animals through torture in testing labs. They could care less if it defects or harms the animal.

    I myself am about to start incubating my own chicken eggs for the experience and I would like to dye the chicks because they would look cool.
    That it's self says your not a big animal lover like you claim... because it's cool???
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    animalluv34, First of all let me tell YOU,

    Dying any chick while it's still in the egg could defenitly harm the chick. Disturbing the integrity of the shell and potentially the membrane inside around the chick would not be good at all. Also, it is going to be extremely difficult to put a hole in the shell without cracking the entire shell or puncturing the actual chick inside. I would not try risking a living things life .. would you?

    Would you inject food coloring into a baby while it's still the mothers womb?

    I dout, so why try it on chicks? because there not human? that's a stupid reason.

    In addition, poking holes in the egg shell allows infections to get into the baby chick. (No, it doesn't matter how small the whole is.)

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    I have not heard of scientists dyeing wild endangered chicks for the sake of tracking. What would this possibly teach them that simple observation would not? Also, wouldn't dyeing them interefere with the camoflouge effect of many species' baby down? Could you possibly show me some info about these studies? I am genuinely curious as this simply doesn't make sense to me. I would like to know more about it if this is something that is actually beinig utilized.

    As far as my reasons for not liking it... I dunno, call me crazy, but in general I am not going to be on board with tampering with fetuses and embryos simply for the sake of coolness. Just one of my silly little hang-ups.

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    ok guys, i'm not actually going to color the chicks i'm going to incubate, I just wanted to see if everyones views on the subject were still the same after the info I presented.

    And i didn't mean it to be belittling to you guys about me saying that I love animals more than anyone else, I was just trying to say that I love them very much and would never want anything to happen to them that would be hazardous to their health.

    Sophist, I'll try to find some info for you on the internet about the utilization of the studies.

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    I would appreciate that, thanks.

    I know also that you didn't mean any offense with your comment about loving your animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animalluv34
    I myself am about to start incubating my own chicken eggs for the experience and I would like to dye the chicks because they would look cool.
    I find your response interesting and I have learned a lot from it. The only aspect I can't understand is this particular statement, I would have thought that your well-backed up opinion on this matter could constitute a reason for dying the chicks a little more convincing than that. But at least I can see that you are doing it with animals' interests at heart.

    Personally, I think all creatures are perfect in the colours they were created with.

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