Trouble in Paradise

[crow_noir]

Not to get too off track, but i wanted to bring to light something a little bizarre. Keep in mind the pets mentioned in these books had only vegetable dye used on them. The plus side is that I have found an earth friendly way to dye my own hair. I have wanted to, but haven't due to harsh chemicals.

My thought is that the way this is done is harmless, unlike what is done to the chicks. I still think the people are a bit nuts Some of the prices these people pay to have this done!!!

http://www.amazon.com/Why-Paint-Cats.../dp/1580082718

I highly suggest seeing if your local library has this book. For me one of the most memorable "paintings" was of the neons (fish) (done on cats.) There were two or three stories in the whole book where i didn't think the person was a bit nuts for having it done to their cat. Some of the stories are a bit sniffly... others outrageous, and others will just have you rolling your eyes. Some are even thought provoking.

And for the record, who the heck would dye any animal! Cat, Dog, Bird or Fish! There is no point! Poor babys!

[Argranade]

Once again, the dye is ALREADY injected into their system. So ingestion by preening would be pretty inconsequential.

Colouring any new born animal is WRONG either way, I already know it can get threw there skin and into there bodies but not everyone understands that, some people think they won't get sick from eating it .. like idiots who die water red to attrack humming birds! Again when preening them selfs there just injecting more dye onto there system ON TOP of that they have already been infected from dye traveling threw there skin..

[Sophist]

I already know it can get threw there skin and into there bodies but not everyone understands that, some people think they won't get sick from eating it .. like idiots who die water red to attrack humming birds! Again when preening them selfs there just injecting more dye onto there system ON TOP of that they have already been infected from dye traveling threw there skin..

Um, you still aren't getting it.

It isn't being absorbed through their skin. It is put into a needle, the needle then punches a hole in the eggshell injects the embryo.

This isn't a topical treatment, typically. It is an injection or series of injections done while they are still in the egg.

[Argranade]

Um, you still aren't getting it.

It isn't being absorbed through their skin. It is put into a needle, the needle then punches a hole in the eggshell injects the embryo.

This isn't a topical treatment, typically. It is an injection or series of injections done while they are still in the egg.

WTF OMG,

I thought you ment it was done after they hatched! sorry lol.

Thats even more crewl! no chick should be touched before or even at the begining of hatching.

[CathyBogart]

Sophist, if you read this article. it says the chicks were sprayed with dye.

[Sophist]

I did not see that in the link I went to at the beginning of this thread, so I assumed it was by the 'normal' method, explained here:

http://lancaster.unl.edu/4h/Embryology/TheAnswer1.htm


http://chickscope.beckman.uiuc.edu/r.../coloring.html

[Sophist]

Hmmm the reporter says they were 'apparently sprayed with dye'. Maybe, but it doesn't how he reached that conclusion. Actually, the way it is worded, it sounds like the reporter just assumed they were sprayed or had it topically applied, like most people would assume. That is not the common method for dyeing chicks, so I still remain skeptical.

And if we are talking about dyed chicks in general, especially in terms of painted cats and dogs, etc., I still stand by my assertions .

Even so, I still think it is dooming these chicks to be impulse buys by people with no long-term plans who will be done with their new pets before they even get in their un-dyed adult feathers.

[Zippy]

Still it is horriable.It is done so people will buy them for the childern.
I don't agree with giving ducks,chicks and bunnies for easter.

[animalluv34]

First of all, let me tell you, no one in the world loves animals more than me, and it wouldn't be a pretty site if I came face to face with someone who hurt them.

Now, to get down to the good stuff.

If this were dangerous to the chicks health, then scientists wouldn't do this to birds of endangered species to track the beginning of their life in the wild.
And the harmless vegetable dye isn't injected into the bird embryo itself. It is injected into the yolk so it can be absorbed by the developing fur. It isn't absorbed into the skin itself, if it were, then the skin of the bird would stay that color for the rest of its life, but it doesn't. The color disappears when then first feathers fall out. So I definately wouldn't say this is dangerous to the chicks. I am perfectly fine with scientists doing this so that they can study early bird life in the wild. I'm all about saving wildlife!!!!!!!!!!!

I only have a problem with it when people dye them for money or if they dye them in a manner harmful to the chick.

I myself am about to start incubating my own chicken eggs for the experience and I would like to dye the chicks because they would look cool. But, I already have good homes that they will go to with people who have a farm with chickens already. And, I am going to raise them for a while first, so by the time I give them away, not sell them, their colors will be gone. I see absoultely no harm in dying them because I'm going to use a teeny tiny sterile needle to do it and I'm going to properly sterilize the egg before and after. Then I will seal the almost microscopic hole it will make.

If you still disagree with dying chicks the way I mentioned here and for the same reasons I mentioned here then I would like to know why, so please post a response to this if you disagree.

[Whisk_Luva]

Uh excuse me. We all love animals, I dont think its right to say you love them all more than us.

[buttercup132]

Uh excuse me. We all love animals, I dont think its right to say you love them all more than us.

Ya no kidding...

I just thought of something I wanted to say though. Someone (I can't remember who) said if god wanted odd coloured (pink,green,blue etc) animals he would make them those colours. So dose that mean you (who ever said that) don't agree with people dying their hair those colours? It's the same thing.

If this were dangerous to the chicks health, then scientists wouldn't do this to birds of endangered species to track the beginning of their life in the wild.

Please tell me your kidding..What makes you think scientist wouldn't do that? They put animals through torture in testing labs. They could care less if it defects or harms the animal.

I myself am about to start incubating my own chicken eggs for the experience and I would like to dye the chicks because they would look cool.

That it's self says your not a big animal lover like you claim... because it's cool???

[Argranade]

animalluv34, First of all let me tell YOU,

Dying any chick while it's still in the egg could defenitly harm the chick. Disturbing the integrity of the shell and potentially the membrane inside around the chick would not be good at all. Also, it is going to be extremely difficult to put a hole in the shell without cracking the entire shell or puncturing the actual chick inside. I would not try risking a living things life .. would you?

Would you inject food coloring into a baby while it's still the mothers womb?

I dout, so why try it on chicks? because there not human? that's a stupid reason.

In addition, poking holes in the egg shell allows infections to get into the baby chick. (No, it doesn't matter how small the whole is.)

[Miss Z]

I myself am about to start incubating my own chicken eggs for the experience and I would like to dye the chicks because they would look cool.

I find your response interesting and I have learned a lot from it. The only aspect I can't understand is this particular statement, I would have thought that your well-backed up opinion on this matter could constitute a reason for dying the chicks a little more convincing than that. But at least I can see that you are doing it with animals' interests at heart.

Personally, I think all creatures are perfect in the colours they were created with.