Debate about cell phones in hospitals.

[Lady's Human]

Let's just say that the is the most polite way I can think of to express the utter frustration I feel when trying to explain something to someone who is either willfully ignorant or just genuinely hasn't acquired the experience to understand.

[wombat2u2004]

Let's just say that the is the most polite way I can think of to express the utter frustration I feel when trying to explain something to someone who is either willfully ignorant or just genuinely hasn't acquired the experience to understand.

Hahahaha.....that's a funny one.
From my experience here...Sparks is NEITHER "willfully ignorant or just genuinely hasn't acquired the experience to understand."
She has a very good point of view I feel...its ok for people to agree to disagree....isn't it ????
Wombat

[Lady's Human]

Genuinely hasn't acquired the experience--------she's young and hasn't had the joy of hospital visits with a spouse or young children yet

Willful ignorance----------she refuses to acknowledge valid points from people who have been in situations where cell phones were a godsend.

[Lady's Human]

Wombat, Disagreeing is fine.

It gets my hackles up, however, when people call for MORE regulation, when no one can enforce the regulations that are already in place.

Should people remain speechless in a hospital? After all, my joking conversation with the person next to me may offend someone else, and a one on one conversation is far easier to overhear than one end of a phone conversation.

[Pembroke_Corgi]

It gets my hackles up, however, when people call for MORE regulation, when no one can enforce the regulations that are already in place.

Wow, I thought Sparks and her husband thought more rules would lead to the soul-sucking government to turn us all into robots. Careful, banning cell phones in hospitals will ultimately turn us into government-controlled slaves! It's a slippery slope.

Seriously...I worked in a hospital for quite a while, and I have never once seen a doctor or nurse need to tell a patient or family member or ANYONE, to turn off their cell phone. If a cell phone was the most annoying distraction in a hospital, wouldn't we all be lucky?

[sparks19]

Wow, I thought Sparks and her husband thought more rules would lead to the soul-sucking government to turn us all into robots. Careful, banning cell phones in hospitals will ultimately turn us into government-controlled slaves! It's a slippery slope.

Seriously...I worked in a hospital for quite a while, and I have never once seen a doctor or nurse need to tell a patient or family member or ANYONE, to turn off their cell phone. If a cell phone was the most annoying distraction in a hospital, wouldn't we all be lucky?

AH but you see.... it is actually the removal of a rule Besides... It shouldn't have to be a rule... it should just be respect for the patients and their families. just like at the movies.... you don't find it sad that they have to TELL people to turn off their ringers? LOL isn't that just common sense? I just don't get what happened to that these days. They don't tell you not to talk during a movie... most people just GET that and refrain from talking (I say most lol not all) but they have to actually tell people to turn off their ringers? lol but I always like to tell those people that if they would like to discuss the movie while it's on perhaps they should consider renting

it's like commercials that say "cars cannot actually drive on buildings" I'm amazed they have to say these things. people don't just know that? lol

it makes me giggle inside just a little

[Lady's Human]

How is banning cell phones in hospitals the removal of a rule?

[Karen]

When have you been to the movies last? I cannot remember a time when the trailers at the theater didn't include a "don"t add your own sound track" bit.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Wombat, Disagreeing is fine.

It gets my hackles up, however, when people call for MORE regulation, when no one can enforce the regulations that are already in place.

Should people remain speechless in a hospital? After all, my joking conversation with the person next to me may offend someone else, and a one on one conversation is far easier to overhear than one end of a phone conversation.

Good gosh...LH...here we are agreeing again! (I'll not use a smilie as those seem to disturb the more thin-skinned among us!)

I, too, am for more personal responsibility and LESS of the "Nanny State" of lots of rules and regulations. But some people like/need Big Brother/Big Sister telling them when they can speak and about what they can speak.

I was just at the gym and had this mental picture....The doc tells you granny is not doing well and you had better call the family. Do I have enough quarters for the pay phone? Do I have to run down to the first floor so I can go outside to use my cell phone (and hope my conversation won't bother the smokers out there!)

So, I hope there is a place where those who need lots of rules can go and a place for those of us who favor less!

[Lady's Human]

Scary thread......

ES, Liz, Pembroke Corgi and I all agreeing.

I think a guy with horns on his head and a long red tail just went skiing by again.....

[sparks19]

Hahahaha.....that's a funny one.
From my experience here...Sparks is NEITHER "willfully ignorant or just genuinely hasn't acquired the experience to understand."
She has a very good point of view I feel...its ok for people to agree to disagree....isn't it ????
Wombat

LOL well to be honest.... when they just start off rolling their eyes at me from the beginning of the thread... I just like to see the hackles raise more and more. the rolly eye thing is the "in" thing you know... all the cool kids are doin it. But you know I MUST see their valid points... even though I don't roll my eyes at them lol but that request is rarely returned lol and ALWAYS with rolly eyes hehehe. My view is... if you can't start out the debate without resorting to the roll eyes or sarcastic remarks (not nessecarily LH right away) then I shouldn't have to be the civil one either... it's not a fair request

hehe just teasin... I don't really care either way. But I believe that if they had actually read my posts they would see that I did concede to there being a time and place for the cell phone calls but that the hospital should not be responsible for babysitting the people who just MUST have their cell phone glued to them at all times at full volume. But apparently... that was not enough. I just don't get why people can't see that their loud cell phone ringers (that get more obnoxious each year with all the new special ring tones that you pay a fortune for) and their loud yakking and carrying on might not be appropriate in a hospital setting. If everyone were able to be curteous and be quiet... I might be more apt to agree with cell phone use in the hospital. But most cannot so I think there is a time and place for everything and you should at least try to find an area that isn't filled with people or patients to use your cell phone. I don't think that is an absurd request lol.

Karen, I remember my mom saying that to me one time and I purposely held the face I was making for a long time just to prove her wrong... it didn't stick... but boy was my face sore lol. What about the "if you don't sit back from the TV you will ruin your eye sight" I never believed that one and I have perfect eye sight... for now. but now both of my parents wear glasses so I know it's onlly a matter of time *bites nails anxiously* i wish we had a smiley for that lol a nailbiting smiley.

LH, people shouldn't remain speechless but they certainly should keep their talking to a dull roar. there is no need to be loud and obnoxious in a hospital. whisper.... and you can talk all you like. If you are talking loud enough that they can hear you down the hall... you should be asked to take your convo elsewhere. And apparently many people think you have to yell for the other person to hear you on a cell phone.

OHHHHHHH and those stupid walkie talkie phones. Now you don't even have to dial and hold the phone to your ear.... you can just press a button get a loud BEEP BEEP BEEP and get a loud voice projecting out of the speaker of the phone. Now I don't get those at all. There was a guy in the restaurant using one the other day LOL