Thinking Of Selling Daisy

[wolfsoul]

I have contacted who I believe to be Daisy's breeder, and hopefully she can step in and help out.

[coco-bean]

I have contacted who I believe to be Daisy's breeder, and hopefully she can step in and help out.

Thank you, i was hoping there was a REAL breeder behind that pup!

[timlewis]

First Thank You all for your advice, But i dont need anyone contacting anyone im grown and can do that myself. I will give the training a try, and ill let you know how it goes.

[pitc9]

Tim, I don't know if this question has been asked yet, but is your brother in law's boxer neutered?

[Lobodeb]

Thank you for being willing to try the training, Tim.

I'll be the first to admit that Maggy is far from trained. She knows a few tricks, but I hardly call that training. The main difference is that when she gets out of hand, I simply pick her up and move her. I don't see you doing that with a boxer, though.

While she's inside, maybe you can keep her on a leash or one of those no jump harnesses so she can learn not to jump on your kids? Even when you're not actually training her. It sounds like she could use some house manners.

Hopefully that'll help. Just remember, she's still a puppy. She'll probably be this way for at least another year. Having said that, you're also at a great time to train her.

Good luck. Although you may not be on the same page as other PTers i.e., "just a dog," I really do feel you care for Daisy. She just needs a lot of guidance. I hope you can and are able to give it to her.

[cmayer31]

Hi Tim,

I've typed a few replies, but have deleted them all because I think the other members of PT have touched on most of the points I had written. Anyhow, I really hope that providing Daisy with the mental and physical stimulation of training will help with some of her issues. Dogs are pack animals and need to be with their pack and learn the pack rules as set forth by you and others in her pack. Boxers are intelligent and active dogs they need a lot of physical and mental stimulation and sometimes walks are not enough to satisfy those needs. You can mix training with playing such as playing fetch and teaching her to drop the ball when she brings it back.

If you'd like I think I have an extra copy of Puppies for Dummies that I can mail to you. Here's a description of the book:

A book you will love and every puppy will need! From housetraining to proper puppy socialization, it's all here in this fun and friendly guide to the toughest and most delightful era in your dog's life: puppyhood. With a focus on behavior and relationship, Sarah Hodgson helps your puppy grow up to be a healthy, playful, well-mannered dog.
Discover how to:

choose the perfect puppy for you
raise a well-mannered, happy puppy
housetrain your puppy quickly and effectively
provide proper puppy care and nutrition
keep peace between kids and puppies

I might have some other training media that I can scrounge up as well. That said, it might be worth it to really look hard for a trainer to assist you in person. Maybe a neighbor or local resident has experience training their own dogs and can offer some one on one advice and work with Daisy while you’re there. I can read and understand just about any manual or diagram, but until I do it hands on for the first time I will never really comprehend it beyond the basics, so for me a hands on trainer was very valuable.

[Pawsitive Thinking]

I sort of get where you are coming from - the children have to come first but poor Daisy. She only wants to be part of the pack....I do hope that you think very, very hard if you ever consider getting another dog. They are hard work, take a lot of time and commitment but I guess you are finding that out now..........

I hope you find her a home where she can thrive

[crow_noir]

I do have to agree with many of the posts here... but I've been thinking. Rather than criticizing Tim we should be thanking him for realizing that there is a problem and caring enough to be concerned. Many people in my old neighborhood would have just given up on the dog and that is that. Those dogs usually have less than bad endings.

Tim, it is my opinion that if you truly love this dog you will find it a new home that will give it plenty of exercise. Do what is best for the dog. Don't be afraid to ask an adoption fee.

Some of you all know me and Daisy, but some dont so ill tell you all my situation. I have a Boxer which i know and knew when i got her would be a hyper dog, but all dogs that i have been around including boxers are controlable. I also have a 5 yr old boy and a 2 yr old girl which are my life. Now I live in a small town in the country and have a nice sized yard, so I have always kept Daisy outside. And i know some of u dont think any dog should be kept outside but to me its kinda like having gas, there are more room outside than in,lol. But really i had my yard fixed where she couldnt get around front because she would tear up all the christmas decorations and i had a lot of money in them because my kids love them. Anyway now its getting warm and i had a kennell built 40 ft x 10 ft, she was climbing out i put a top on it, she was getting under it, i got tent stakes and staked it down. She still got under it so i put a runner in that wouldnt let her reach far enough to get out, she will only come out one side. She got out of her collar, i bought a harness now she is getting out of it, i really dont know what else to do. There arent any trainers or any thing like that around here and i hardly have time to train her and dont really know how, i work 3rd shift. i work 11 to 7 starting sunday nights through friday night except tuesday and thursday i work 7 to 7. Now you may wonder the problem, my kids cant get out and play because she is so very very hyper she is 8 months old and outways them bouth already. Everyone says she will calm down but i dont see it happening in the near future, so my brother in law will give me $600 for her and he has a male boxer, and probably more time. So does anyone have any ideas that will help me because i have tried all i know to do and buying her and having a kennell built and all the other things i have done i probably have $1200+ in her and really dont wont to spend much more. But i HATE the thought of not having her here. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

[pitc9]

Well, since my question never got answered (if his brother in law's boxer is neutered)
I'll just say this:

I pray for Daisy's life, I pray she does not end up being a puppy machine for some money hungry selfish person.
She needs to be spayed before you give her to anyone.
PLEASE don't add to the number of unwatned/unplanned pet that are put to sleep every year because there is not enough room for them all.
Please Tim.... please do the right and responsible thing and have her spayed.

[sumbirdy]

...if you have a dog that is outside, how do you know when its sick? or is hurt? or if no one has paid any attention to it, how do you know if theres a lump? You just DONT, and thats what also makes me very angry.
I know when my dogs are sick and dont feel well, i know how their skin feels...and i also know when each of them need to poop or pee, because im with them all the time, their my children and i dont see how people can treat their pets so terribly. Even if they feel it isnt bad, they dont know about their dog like those of us who have indoor pets.
very confusing to me!

I have 11 outside dogs and I know when they are sick or hurt. I run my hands over them every day. You can tell if their sick by the change of their personality. I don't consider having your dog outside "treating it terribly" Shouldn't we give our animals a choice, just as people have choices? I gave my dogs a choice, stay in or stay out. Most chose out. Dogs love to be outside. They love to be around people, yes, but some people are outside people. People think they'll die from getting to hot or cold. I have NEVER had a dog die from heat (they shed in the summer) or from cold (their hair grows thicker in the winter) but I'm not saying that it doesn't happen. If you take care of your dogs, give them love, attention, shelter then they can thrive outside, sometimes they do better than inside dogs. But this is just my opinion. Before anyone goes judging about whether someone keeps their dogs in or out they should look at their lifestyle, where they live, ect. first.

[Vela]

Boxers are never meant to be outside dogs. Their hair coat does not grow thicker in the winter, nor thinner in the summer. It stays the same all year round, very sparse on the underbelly and legs, etc. Anywhere you read about boxers says they should not be kept outside. Many dogs can be kept outside physically (not saying I prefer that for myself, I don't) but some dogs cannot tolerate the extremes of heat and/or cold. They also cannot live outside in the hot summer because brachycephalic dogs overheat much more easily.

You are correct in saying that many dogs can life outside, as long as they are provided for, even if it's not ideal, but some breeds just cannot do so as well as others and those considerations should be taken into account when buying any breed. "What is it's intended purpose, can it fulfill that purpose and the way in which you plan to keep it, and is that the right breed of dog". The dog was bought to look mean, without consdieration of the fact that that particular breed is not meant to be housed outside in anything but moderate conditions year round, be it either heat or cold, and they also do not do well mentally being kept more isolated. They are far "needier" dogs than many other breeds, and that is why he's having problems.

I fully understand different people not seeing their animals as more than the animals they are, I do not feel that way, but they are entitled to it. The main reason I got upset myself was the way it was talked about, with it sounding like he didn't much care if she was bred or not, and didn't seem to realize the lack of socialization time was causing a lot of the problems. The dog has too much pent up energy, and she's getting blamed for being an active dog who hasn't been trained. It's not her fault.

Tim, I wish you luck in training her, and that things are able to settle down for you all, but if you really want to send her to your BIL, please don't let her be a breeder, it's really so hard on them. I have a dog that was used as a breeder, she came to me after, and she has had many health problems and illnesses because of it.

[Jods]

Tim,
This must be a tough decision, I have gone through a situation where I had to make a tough decision like this too. GL training Daisy, I hope you find what it is you can do to keep her. If not GL finding her a great home.
Jods

[Husky_mom]

I´m not saying anything about the subject, but I´m sticking to the helping line here.......

I find out easier teaching a dog to sit and then go on from there.....

first have her in her leash and collar and it may take long it may be quicker, then hold a treat she loooves in front of her, lt her smell it or lick it and then place it above her head and a little behing so she has to look up and back and that makes her sit....... also say "sit" WHILE she´s sitting not any other time so she relates "sit" whith what she´s doing...... you can also try incorporating a hand signal......

for example I hold the treat (which once she learns you can omit) between my index finger and my thumb and hold the rest fingers up as in an "ok" signal.... say "sit" and once performed you give the treat.....

try this a few times during the 10-15 minutes and then try again later that day if possible, if not again the next day...... just a few times until she realizes that sitting means a yummy treat and she´ll do it

you can PM me if needed