Thinking Of Selling Daisy

**SunsetRose** · 03-17-2007, 11:38 PM

Oh boy, I don't think people realize how upsetting it is for me to see these kind of posts. I apologize in advance for my bluntness, but these situations really get to me.

Tim, take that poor dog to a rescue! Don't sell her to your brother in law, take her streight to a rescue. If you care about her so much, then you will be able to turn down $600 to make sure she ends up in a home that has been specially screened to make sure that the family that adopts her can care for her forever. And if you absolutely must sell her to your brother in law, spay her first.

I really don't understand why you got her. You knew boxers needed alot of work and you also knew you didn't have the time. And do you honestly think that a dog that is kept isolated to the backyard with no training, not nearly enough interaction and stimulation and no exercise is going to protect your family!? Your doing the bare minimum for her, treating her like she's nothing more than a dog or an animal to have, why should she do anything for you? If you keep this dog, she'll probably end up aggressive and you won't even be able to trust her with your children none the less expect her to protect them.

**coco-bean** · 03-17-2007, 11:44 PM

if you HONESTLY think giving her to your BIL, spay her! Your getting your money back from her anyways, so you can take that $600 and invest it in some good animal respect classes!

**dab_20** · 03-18-2007, 02:57 AM

I know this reply is a bit late, and I'm basically repeating what others have said.

Please take Daisy to a rescue, or at least spay her before you give her to your BIL! Spaying her or giving her to the rescue may be the best thing that you'll ever do for Daisy. You are an example for you kids... do you want them to think that an animal is just something to throw away because it's convienent for you? That is one of the most important lessons in life... to respect creatures. They are living and breathing and they DO have feelings. If you just sell Daisy without even caring if she's bred or not, your kids will learn that dogs are just objects and can be 'sold' at free will. Obviously, your kids will not learn to respect animals from you, so I hope they learn this from someone else.
As for Daisy, how can you not care what happens to a dog that you supposedly 'love'? This is absolutely heartbreaking.. I feel awful for Daisy. She loves you with all her heart, even though she's been somewhat neglected and you don't seem to care for her. This is really saddening.. I wish Daisy the best of luck to wherever she goes. She deserves a loving home, with a family who deeply cares for her.

**timlewis** · 03-18-2007, 03:05 AM

For some reason you all dont understand that just because she is outside doesnt mean she is being neglected. I was hoping someone could tell me an easy way to train her to quit jumping on and running over my kids, so i could train her in what limited time i have. Someone said 15 to 20 mins a day how can u train a dog in that amount of time? But anyway despite what you may think of me I will do what is best for Daisy as i see fit. And if i cant get her to quit running over my kids then it WILL be selling her to my BIL. Now if you can tell me how to train her in 15 to 20 mins a day i may try that if not thank you all for your opinions.

**BC_MoM** · 03-18-2007, 03:30 AM

You can't train her completely in 15 minutes. What I said was that it doesn't sound like you do anything for her, mentally. Those 15 minutes a day will make a big difference if you put in an effort.

I hope you get her spayed before you sell her.

I feel so bad for Daisy.......

Originally Posted by timlewis

For some reason you all dont understand that just because she is outside doesnt mean she is being neglected. I was hoping someone could tell me an easy way to train her to quit jumping on and running over my kids, so i could train her in what limited time i have. Someone said 15 to 20 mins a day how can u train a dog in that amount of time? But anyway despite what you may think of me I will do what is best for Daisy as i see fit. And if i cant get her to quit running over my kids then it WILL be selling her to my BIL. Now if you can tell me how to train her in 15 to 20 mins a day i may try that if not thank you all for your opinions.

**timlewis** · 03-18-2007, 03:32 AM

And I Didnt Say 15 Minutes. I Said 15 Minutes A Day!

**Whisk_Luva** · 03-18-2007, 05:26 AM

Do you really think complaining at Tim is going to do any good? He only has Daisy at heart I am sure!
Come on let him make the decision. It not mine or yours to decide, Its Tims. If Tim thinks Daisy will be better with his brother in law then so be it! We cant stop him. And to put a thread up and take this long to decide shows he loves Daisy. Otherwise he would have gotten rid of her by now. I think its
best he makes the decision himself!

Shouting at him isnt going to help!

Yes poor Daisy, but he came for advise not for everyon to shout at him. Shes kept outside, SO WHAT? It doesnt mean shes neglated! Why wont anyone understand that? Most people wont have seen Daisy or where shes living so who can say she neglated?

Well Tim, Make the decision which will make Daisy Happy. I think you know your dog and people on this chat don't.

**Pam** · 03-18-2007, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by timlewis

Now if you can tell me how to train her in 15 to 20 mins a day i may try that if not thank you all for your opinions.

Tim, I haven't read this thread through since I commented early on but I am sure it has gotten heated. I just now looked for a post from you to see what your thoughts have been through all of this and was encouraged by what you said above.

I took Bella through obedience school and also the two dogs I owned before them. The instructor showed us the things we needed to do and told us to just work with them 15-20 minutes a day until the next session a week later. At the next session we were given more *homework* to do with the dogs, and more the week after that, etc., etc. Without exception every dog in every class improved. We had a golden in the class that was just like Daisy, very high spirited and with a mind of her own. By the end of the class (10 weeks later) she was a different dog.

I can't go into detail here with how to train a dog and I am sure you don't have an obedience school close by if you live in a very rural area. Do you live near a PetsMart? They have classes. If that is not an option, just buy a book. There are many good ones out there and lots of people here could probably point out some good ones that have worked for them. I am encouraged that you are saying you will give Daisy 15-20 minutes a day. It is a start!

**coco-bean** · 03-18-2007, 10:05 AM

i really think alot of us (def. including me) got heated was how he worded his thread with daisy involved, of course we all want whats better for daisy and i really hope tim means it when he says he does too. But i sure as holy hell hope he realizes the BEST for daisy is def. not being a LONG time breeding machine. Dogs are like people in some ways...we get worn out. Sure im not big on kids and sure, i dont have any...but i do know that the body wears down...giving birth is hard for a human...think of that times however many puppies she has...PER LITER!! If you really want whats best for Daisy...at least spay her before anything! Alot of times spaying/neutering WILL calm them down some...some it works, some it doesn!
15 minutes a day would be perfect for daisy, the reason why she is climbing the fence or digging under it is because she's bored...if your back yard is fenched, throw the ball for 10 minutes...that'll have her start realizing she CAN start to trust you and you are her human!
while on you "so called walk" maybe go an extra 2 or 3 blocks...or take one of your kids and have them hold the leash so they realize she isnt just a hyper dog...help them hold the leash she she doesnt run away with them.
OR even jog a little with her...you NEED to wear her out...you'll soon realize that when the dog is worn out she will calm down and be more apt. to stay put in the cage.
I highly recommend fetch..if she likes it...my dogs will do it for hours if i let them...and when we get home...they are utterly exhausted!
On another note: Yes tim we jumped on you...me especially...it was all in the wording of your thread, it really made you sound like a real pr*ck! you may or may not be, your the one who knows who you really are, but im sure your better than this! if you want to do whats so best for your daisy, the least you can do is do a little research on your BIL or breeding and talk to your vet.
Or who knows maybe you even baught her with breeding in mind. Which also makes sense to me since you still havent gotten her spayed and she's 8 months old already.
I really dont know Tim, i just want you to be responsible with her, when you bought her you took on the responsibilty of her, including keeping her safe!
sending her off to be a forever mom insnt necessarily safe for her!
Just think about it, we'll be here to help you, but the one thing i've learned about PT is you HAVE TO WORD THINGS RIGHT! otherwise the ppl. here will tear you apart!
i've learned to watch my wording and go with it that way!
I would at least like to know what happeneds to poor daisy!
thanks for your time!