I realize I'm coming in at the tail end of this discussion but I feel like I need to put in my two cents also.

As hard as it may seem, I think I know where Tim is coming from. Please understand that even though this feels like de ja vu to me, I do not condone any of his thoughts or practices of dog ownership.

Many years ago, I lived in Virginia in "coal mining country". I was married with two young children. My husband(now ex husband) and his entire family worked in the coal mines. Let me point out, I'm not stereotyping coal miners either. It's just a coincidence that that was also their profession. The universal mentality was that dogs stayed outside, they needed very little training, all the dogs in the yard had a "job", and if they weren't able to do their jobs, they needed to be, for the lack of a better term; disposed of. If you could find a better home, for whatever the reason or purpose, that was your first option. If you could get back some of the cash you had invested, that would be an even better deal. If not, whatever. If another home was unavailable, that dog would just be ..........(fill in the blank).

As I recall, Tim got this dog to protect his family. We all remember the ear cropping style that was chosen so Daisy could look "meaner" and scare away unwanted visitors. Daisy has required more training than Tim has time to do and he would be the only person designated to train Daisy. I'm thinking that training Daisy would be a job done by only the man of the house.

It has turned out that Daisy didn't "automatically" measure up as she should have so she needs to go. Tim is probably aggravated with the situation because now he has an unsuitable dog on his property and his family still needs protection. After the time and expense, Tim and his family are back to square one. What is he going to do now?

Tim, I don't mean this to be disrespectful to you at all. I can just see the people on this board, reading this saga in complete disbelief. Most of us don't think like this and that's why so many people are having such a hard time understanding your rationale in this situation. Please understand, Tim, that you're not of the same school that the people on this board are. You and Pet Talk are almost 100% on two completely different pages.

I am not surprised this happened at all. What does surprise me is that you would come back and ask advice from the members of this board after all you've already been through here. Surely, you know you don't think like the pet owners here. I can't imagine why you came here asking for advice again when you knew what would happen.

I hope you are able to rehome that beautiful girl of your's and she's able to live a happy life. Hopefully, she is spayed right away and not turned into a breeding machine. So she didn't work out for you, Tim. Maybe she can become a wonderful pet for some loving family. She deserves a better life than what she's had so far.