Thinking Of Selling Daisy

[Kfamr]

Suggestions?

Train her. She is only a young puppy. You said you knew when you got her that Boxers are hyper dogs. You know why the dogs you've been around were managable? Because their owners trained them.

She needs to be an inside dog to learn the pack rules. Outside dogs have a difficult time understanding that. Keeping her outside, and reducing her size of yard, is just going to make it worse. She needs to run, she needs to play with other dogs, and most of all she needs to be with her pack - your family, to learn the important behavior aspects in life.

Keeping her outside is your #1 problem.
Bring her inside, crate train her (for when you are gone, ONLY,) and allow her to learn the rules of a pack.
I can assure you that there are many of us here with experience with puppies that can help you. Heck, we can even learn together because I've got a 6 month old here myself.

Selling her just sounds ridiculous. Who cares about money when it comes to this?

[timlewis]

Some of you may think this is mean but she will never be allowed in the house for good. And no their not trained their just not this hyper i have actually never been around a trained dog never. And again about the inside as i said i have 2 small kids and she is to hyper and although she doesnt mean to she scares them and that doesnt help. When they run she chases if they dont she knocks them down and i can work with her some but not like i would like to. But i do appreciate the thought.

[Pam]

Suggestions?

Train her. She is only a young puppy.

Tim has said ". There arent any trainers or any thing like that around here and i hardly have time to train her and dont really know how, i work 3rd shift."

That is why I responded as I did. I agree with Kay in that dogs don't belong outside. They need human contact and will never learn how to behave around people if their time with them is limited. I hope whatever dog you choose next time will be an inside dog and maybe even get to sleep in the Big Bed with their humans like most of our PT dogs.

[timlewis]

I understand and respect that most of you do like dogs inside but although you may think its mean Daisy nor will any other dog ever live inside my house. And although it may seem mean to some that is just the way it is and not to sound mean but i dont need any help with my future choices just this one.

[Kfamr]

I read the entire post. 2-3 times, so I know what he said. But, training is the only reasonable decision in my opinion and many of us can help him with that.

If you're never going to allow your dogs inside, good luck, because I imagine you're going to have a lot of "hard decisions" just like this one in the future.

-Sigh- Good luck I suppose because it doesn't seem you're here to actually listen to our suggestions and you're set in your decision.

Hope your brother-in-law takes the time for her. Also, you may want to speak with her breeder. Often time selling a dog is against the contract. Most breeders prefer the dog is returned before rehoming.

[Pam]

I read the entire post. 2-3 times, so I know what he said.

I wasn't saying that you didn't. I was only explaining why I responded the way I did (i.e., didn't suggest training). *sigh*

[Ginger's Mom]

Glad to hear that you are thinking of rehoming Daisy. May I strongly suggest that you do not do it yourself, but contact a Boxer rescue (there seems to be one not far from you in Tennessee). They will be better able to determine what is best for Daisy. If what you really want is what is best for Daisy and your family that is the best way to go. Your brother -in-law probably isn't a good idea either since from what you say Daisy needs training and you have indicated that he doesn't train his dogs. Sounds like a failure before it even begins. Hope Daisy does well in her new home, she is a cutie.

[Roxyluvsme13]

I, myself who has an outside dog as my mother refers to her, understand the outside dog situation, but if you had two small kids and you adopted a hyper breed like the Boxer, you should have known that it could be a risk to the kids.

[maerlyn]

What, exactly, will you "miss" about her? You're not giving her attention; you're insistent that neither she nor any other dog will live in your home. Then why even have a dog??? Dogs and cats kept as companions (as opposed to working dogs) should be members of the *family*. That means living with the family, interacting with the family on a regular basis. What pleasure does Daisy get from you? That poor child is a living, sentient being - not a "thing" to buy and then "get rid of" when it no longer serves your purpose! And what for what purpose do you wish to own a dog - just to say you have one? You banish the poor soul to the yard and then wonder why she wants to get out & run away. I agree wholeheartedly with the poster who said that you don't deserve to own a dog - or any other companion animal. Where was your concern for your "two precious children" when you *bought* poor Daisy? I feel so sorry for her, it breaks my heart. Furthermore, the example you are setting for those children is abominable! You are teaching them that dogs are "things", like toys, to be put aside until you deign to bestow some of your largesse upon them. We do not *need* any more people with attitudes like that!! Do the responsibile thing and see that poorl, pathetic Daisy goes to a reputable rescue; they'll have her spayed and see that she goes to a *deserving* home.

[Daisy and Delilah]

I realize I'm coming in at the tail end of this discussion but I feel like I need to put in my two cents also.

As hard as it may seem, I think I know where Tim is coming from. Please understand that even though this feels like de ja vu to me, I do not condone any of his thoughts or practices of dog ownership.

Many years ago, I lived in Virginia in "coal mining country". I was married with two young children. My husband(now ex husband) and his entire family worked in the coal mines. Let me point out, I'm not stereotyping coal miners either. It's just a coincidence that that was also their profession. The universal mentality was that dogs stayed outside, they needed very little training, all the dogs in the yard had a "job", and if they weren't able to do their jobs, they needed to be, for the lack of a better term; disposed of. If you could find a better home, for whatever the reason or purpose, that was your first option. If you could get back some of the cash you had invested, that would be an even better deal. If not, whatever. If another home was unavailable, that dog would just be ..........(fill in the blank).

As I recall, Tim got this dog to protect his family. We all remember the ear cropping style that was chosen so Daisy could look "meaner" and scare away unwanted visitors. Daisy has required more training than Tim has time to do and he would be the only person designated to train Daisy. I'm thinking that training Daisy would be a job done by only the man of the house.

It has turned out that Daisy didn't "automatically" measure up as she should have so she needs to go. Tim is probably aggravated with the situation because now he has an unsuitable dog on his property and his family still needs protection. After the time and expense, Tim and his family are back to square one. What is he going to do now?

Tim, I don't mean this to be disrespectful to you at all. I can just see the people on this board, reading this saga in complete disbelief. Most of us don't think like this and that's why so many people are having such a hard time understanding your rationale in this situation. Please understand, Tim, that you're not of the same school that the people on this board are. You and Pet Talk are almost 100% on two completely different pages.

I am not surprised this happened at all. What does surprise me is that you would come back and ask advice from the members of this board after all you've already been through here. Surely, you know you don't think like the pet owners here. I can't imagine why you came here asking for advice again when you knew what would happen.

I hope you are able to rehome that beautiful girl of your's and she's able to live a happy life. Hopefully, she is spayed right away and not turned into a breeding machine. So she didn't work out for you, Tim. Maybe she can become a wonderful pet for some loving family. She deserves a better life than what she's had so far.

[Kfamr]

I wasn't saying that you didn't. I was only explaining why I responded the way I did (i.e., didn't suggest training). *sigh*

I just wasn't sure why you quoted me with a quote from him - as if I was wrong to suggest training. But, I understand now, although I see nothing wrong with your original post. We're all going to have differing opinions on the subject, obviously.

Why the sigh?



Again, Tim, I strongly suggest you speak with her breeder. I'm not sure what type of breeder she came from, however, a responsible breeder will take back dogs and require that you return them if needed to rehome.

[dukedogsmom]

I have a feeling our suggestions weren't what he wanted to hear. I'm afraid her brother in law will breed her since he's got a male. You know, it's funny how people come here for advice and then don't even listen. Someone else recently did the same thing.

[cloverfdx]

If you are not willing to put the time into training, exercise etc then you would be best to rehome... i am only saying this for the sake of the dog. Maybe think it out a bit more before bringing another innocent life in to your yard.

[timlewis]

Im sorry if i sounded like i wasnt listening to your suggestions. But im pretty aggrovated because i really dont want to let her go and the reason she cant come in is because of my 2 kids. I would care less if not for that and if i knew how to train her i would and as far as a not being able to train a dog outside i dont agree. And i do appreciate your suggestions.

[buttercup132]

She's a Boxer obviously she is going to be really hyper shes also a puppy. You asked for suggestions but seem to be making excuses for why they all wont work. I hope she goes to a home where they love her and actually have time for her.