Soldiers face neglect, frustration, at army's top medical facility.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Well....I would like to see our veterans get the care they deserve...whether there are less people in the airforce or not.

So did either of these officers do any TIME? Jail, brig...whatever?

[Lady's Human]

No, they were not given jail time, as there are limitations within the UCMJ and the Manual for Courts Martial as far as what punishments you can give for what crime. An officer relieved with cause and reduced in grade has no military career left, and many civilian jobs are no longer open to them.


As far as the article goes, DHP is aimed at active and reserve servicemembers, not veterans. The VA is the PRIMARY route for former servicemembers to get care. The others fill in when available. Fewer active duty personnel for DHP to cover=less money.

[Edwina's Secretary]

. An officer relieved with cause and reduced in grade has no military career left, and many civilian jobs are no longer open to them.

If they are interested in a career with the government or a sub-contractor that requires employees to have clearance they may have a problem.

However, no other civilian employer can even ASK the reason for discharge from the military. That leaves a whole lot of employers for the former officers.

Private employers can ask about felony convictions however....which affects the grunts...

[Lady's Human]

Where do most former military officers get jobs?

Defense contractors. Especially for those who earned senior ranks.

A reduction in grade carries with it an instantaneous revocation of a clearance, no clearance, no job in defense industries. (One of the more obnoxious things about the way Pentagon procurement works........ Retire from the Pentagon, get a job with the contractor you just assisted in getting the multi-million XYZ contract, and get your replacement to shift contracts your way)

[Edwina's Secretary]

Where do most former military officers get jobs?

Defense contractors. Especially for those who earned senior ranks.

A reduction in grade carries with it an instantaneous revocation of a clearance, no clearance, no job in defense industries. (One of the more obnoxious things about the way Pentagon procurement works........ Retire from the Pentagon, get a job with the contractor you just assisted in getting the multi-million XYZ contract, and get your replacement to shift contracts your way)

While I have known of the interest of defense contractors in retiring officers for their contact....in my career I have done alot of recruiting at military fairs, junior officer fairrs, and even on-base events. Many, many non-defense contractors recruit military personnel...

Don't sell the veterans so short! There are lots of ways their skills can be applied in the civilan world.

In fact my husband just attended and military fair and hired a captain to run one of his operations.

[Lady's Human]

Most of the REALLY senior officials retiring don't go to job fairs, they have their post-military career lined up for them for the most part before they leave. (If they want it)

There's a reason the military can't keep mid-career officers around, however, you guys out on the civilian side keep hiring 'em. That's what I hate about Captains.........you get one trained, and they leave for a civilian job then you have to start all over again.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Most of the REALLY senior officials retiring don't go to job fairs, they have their post-military career lined up for them for the most part before they leave. (If they want it)

There's a reason the military can't keep mid-career officers around, however, you guys out on the civilian side keep hiring 'em. That's what I hate about Captains.........you get one trained, and they leave for a civilian job then you have to start all over again.

Truth is...you can have this one back....