A woman President

[wombat2u2004]

Ya know what? I do not want my children to have to fight this enemy either. But if we don not defeat then now, they will. Running away without victory will doom us to another generation having to fight them. Call it a curse, but I have seen this enemy face to face. I have been in the same room as some of them before. I understand what motivates them. Reasons why we are there beside (it is totally irrelevant now) we MUST win and not let the politicians turn this into another Vietnam, all in the name of gaining power.

Sure, Hank might make YOUR Son safe, but she would make your grandchildren have to fight.



A world safe for all people? What exactly does this mean? But other than that... You don't have those things now? Who do you think should provide all the things you listed? The Government? Do you really think our Government should be responsible for those things?

You shouldn't be having a go at Monica old mate. I think you will find that this proud mother of a veteran would agree with every word that you say.
I am also a veteran, and I believe that another loss because of politicians would be fatal to the western world.
As for provision of these things she asks for by the government, no, I think that is NOT what she meant. Marigold is quite aware of what it costs to be free, and probably more of a patriot than I have met in quite a while. I believe that she is aware of the lies and deceit put across to the public by prospective presidential candidates. So who is one to choose???
They are all after the power, the job, the bucks, the perks that go with it.
I suppose the best anyone can hope for is their own personal choice.
k ???
Wombat

[Puckstop31]

You shouldn't be having a go at Monica old mate.

My comments are not a stab at Monica. I could care less about her. Actually, I felt bad for her at the time. She was young, naive and got taken advantage of. My comments are simply about how Hillary handled the situation.

I think you will find that this proud mother of a veteran would agree with every word that you say.
I am also a veteran, and I believe that another loss because of politicians would be fatal to the western world.
As for provision of these things she asks for by the government, no, I think that is NOT what she meant. Marigold is quite aware of what it costs to be free, and probably more of a patriot than I have met in quite a while. I believe that she is aware of the lies and deceit put across to the public by prospective presidential candidates. So who is one to choose???
They are all after the power, the job, the bucks, the perks that go with it.
I suppose the best anyone can hope for is their own personal choice.
k ???
Wombat

Fair enough I suppose... Still, I would like to see Marigolds comments here. I just hope that her desire to end the conflict are not selfish ones. By that I mean the simple fact that she wants her son to be safe. Of course ANY mother wants their children to be safe. But how safe will our world be if we run in the face of this enemy?

Also, just for the record, I am quite disappointed with the way the current administration has horribly mis-managed this conflict. I HATE it when politicians play politics with the lives of our soldiers. If a person REALLY 'supports the troops' they will want them to WIN.

[lizbud]

Still, I would like to see Marigolds comments here. I just hope that her desire to end the conflict are not selfish ones. By that I mean the simple fact that she wants her son to be safe. Of course ANY mother wants their children to be safe. But how safe will our world be if we run in the face of this enemy?

They are an enemy in part because we attacked & bombed them without
truth that they had harmed us on 9/11.

Just wanted say that my children are not in the military, but if they were,
you would find me to be the most selfish woman on earth.I do understand
Marigolds comments very well.

[sparks19]

Now let me start by saying.... I do not have children in the military.... for obvious reasons lol. And I think the worst pain in the world would be for a parent to outlive their child.... IMO, there is nothing that can compare.

BUT.... after knowing my mother in law and talking to her about my husbands past deployments I am of the frame of mind that if you aren't supporting their mission you aren't supporting them. She also went through the "not knowing where he was" the "not being able to speak with him" the "constant worry" but she has never and I don't think she would EVER say that she hated their cause or their mission. She was just proud and nothing else. She didn't tell him she was proud and then behind his back talk about how ridiculous it was that he was doing something she claimed she was proud of him for. She passed her time by making care packages for the troops.... writing letters and sending cookies. She was always nothing but supportive. I truly admire her strength and courage.

NOW ... before anyone gets their panties in a twist ... I am not in anyway attacking anyone who wants their children home.... to not want your children home would be a far worse thing. and as mismanaged as this war has been.... our problems with the middle east did not start after 9/11. it just came to a head after 9/11. Troops have been over in the middle east for YEARS before 9/11 was even a twinkle in anyone's eye. To blame the issues over there on one man is simply.... silly. he just decided to do something about it and screwed up. But the problems were there long before... the fighting was there long before... and if we just pull out.... the fighting will still be there long after.

Frankly, Hillary's resolution for this war scares the crap out of me. To simply pull out would be detrimental IMO. Call me selfish but I would rather the war be fought over there.... than to be brought over here because someone thought retreating would just stop it all.

[Grace]

I am married to a VietNam Veteran - 2 tours over there. I am the mother of a Navy pilot - retired.

The VietNam War was a mistake, and this present conflict is even worse. We had no business invading Iraq - they had nothing to do with 9/11. This war has been about money, oil, power and ego from the beginning. I call it George's Folly, and the sooner we are out of there, the safer we will be.

The sooner he is out of office, the safer we will be.

IMHO.

[Puckstop31]

I am married to a VietNam Veteran - 2 tours over there. I am the mother of a Navy pilot - retired.

The VietNam War was a mistake, and this present conflict is even worse. We had no business invading Iraq - they had nothing to do with 9/11. This war has been about money, oil, power and ego from the beginning. I call it George's Folly, and the sooner we are out of there, the safer we will be.

The sooner he is out of office, the safer we will be.

IMHO.

My father had 3 tours. What is your point? Even better how about you spell Vietnam correctly...

How do you think we will be safer if we leave Iraq? Also, yes Iraq probably had nothing to do with 9/11, directly. But that was not the reason we went anyway. Granted, the reasons touted by the administration where wrong and stupid from the start. Too bad nobody had the guts to call it like it was. But now the reason WHY we are there does not matter anymore. We ARE there.

I cannot wait to see your answer as to how we will be safe if we leave defeated? 10 to 1 you show just how ignorant most Americans are as to just how serious this is. This is about WAY more than George W. Bush. Curse him for screwing this up so bad.

Look at things without your prism of hate for the President.

[Grace]

My father had 3 tours. What is your point? Even better how about you spell Vietnam correctly...

How do you think we will be safer if we leave Iraq? Also, yes Iraq probably had nothing to do with 9/11, directly. But that was not the reason we went anyway. Granted, the reasons touted by the administration where wrong and stupid from the start. Too bad nobody had the guts to call it like it was. But now the reason WHY we are there does not matter anymore. We ARE there.

I cannot wait to see your answer as to how we will be safe if we leave defeated? 10 to 1 you show just how ignorant most Americans are as to just how serious this is. This is about WAY more than George W. Bush. Curse him for screwing this up so bad.

Look at things without your prism of hate for the President.

As I said, I was stating my own opinion - just as everyone else here has stated theirs. Why are you so defensive? And why do you not respect that we all may differ? I'm not trying to change anyone's mind.

[Puckstop31]

They are an enemy in part because we attacked & bombed them without
truth that they had harmed us on 9/11.

You must watch to much TV. You obviously do not know anything about this enemy.

Just wanted say that my children are not in the military, but if they were,
you would find me to be the most selfish woman on earth.I do understand
Marigolds comments very well.

What is your freedom worth to you then? What would you pay? Think about it a second before you answer. Think about what our freedom really is.

Would YOU die for it? Or is it better to be a slave?

[lizbud]

You must watch to much TV. You obviously do not know anything about this enemy.

Is that it? That's all you have to say?

Me thinks you must have stopped too many pucks with your noggin fella.

[sparks19]

Is that it? That's all you have to say?

Me thinks you must have stopped too many pucks with your noggin fella.

Such is life being a goaltender. Take it from someone who knows.... it takes a "special" kinda person to be a goalie. LOL not only am I married to one... but I have two brothers who are also goalies. LOL BUT after saying that.... it takes a special kind of woman to understand them But I wouldn't trade him for anything in the world.

[lizbud]

Such is life being a goaltender. Take it from someone who knows.... it takes a "special" kinda person to be a goalie. LOL not only am I married to one... but I have two brothers who are also goalies. LOL BUT after saying that.... it takes a special kind of woman to understand them But I wouldn't trade him for anything in the world.

Well, his condition has it's advantages I imagine. he can have "senior moments" without getting any older.

[Puckstop31]

Is that it? That's all you have to say?

Me thinks you must have stopped too many pucks with your noggin fella.

Well, it is clear you do not understand the threat we face. It is not uncommon either these days.

So, knowing that... Why bother going farther?