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    I am always ready for a change, but wouldn't vote for anyone just because of her gender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen
    I am always ready for a change, but wouldn't vote for anyone just because of her gender.
    Very well said!
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    Quote Originally Posted by critter crazy
    Very well said!
    I agree with both of you.
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    What does "sex appeal" Have to do with a presidential candidate?

    As to the wage stats, we've been through that argument before. You can twist the numbers any way you want, without knowing where the statistics came from they are meaningless. However, Hard data suggests that there are reasons other than the sex of the worker for the apparent wage disparity.

    Eliminate the Electoral College? Great. Doing that would enable a candidate to campaign in CA, FLA, TX, and NY and ignore the rest of the country. The electoral college was set up in part to ensure that smaller states had a voice, and that is still needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    What does "sex appeal" Have to do with a presidential candidate?

    As to the wage stats, we've been through that argument before. You can twist the numbers any way you want, without knowing where the statistics came from they are meaningless. However, Hard data suggests that there are reasons other than the sex of the worker for the apparent wage disparity.

    Eliminate the Electoral College? Great. Doing that would enable a candidate to campaign in CA, FLA, TX, and NY and ignore the rest of the country. The electoral college was set up in part to ensure that smaller states had a voice, and that is still needed.
    So all that means that Hillary has your vote
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    What does "sex appeal" Have to do with a presidential candidate?

    As to the wage stats, we've been through that argument before. You can twist the numbers any way you want, without knowing where the statistics came from they are meaningless. However, Hard data suggests that there are reasons other than the sex of the worker for the apparent wage disparity.

    Eliminate the Electoral College? Great. Doing that would enable a candidate to campaign in CA, FLA, TX, and NY and ignore the rest of the country. The electoral college was set up in part to ensure that smaller states had a voice, and that is still needed.
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    LH campaigning in Fla. wouldn't matter we have all learned they can't count
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Goodnow
    LH campaigning in Fla. wouldn't matter we have all learned they can't count
    ha ha ha haha ha!!! LMBO!!!
    Maggie,

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    I myself have never felt like a second class citizen but many woman do and they are paid less. I would not vote for Hilary because she is a woman, I will vote for her because right now I think she can do the best job. Her being a woman just means that woman's issues are closer to her heart then they would be to most men. One of the reasons she has my vote is because she is pro-choice and because I feel she will help and gay and lesbian communtiy. I would also like to see more money used for things such as woman's health issues, child care, education, retirement. In many of these cases especially woman's health I believe a woman will do more for us. And even though we don't want to admit it, looks do matter to us in voting for a president and for that matter for someone getting a job. They just had these shows on TV where fat people and ugly people applied for a job and were given the brush off, later that same person comes back without the ugly makeup and fat suit and gets the job. We are visual creatures by nature. Part of Bill Clinton and JFK's appeal was sex appeal. If Hilary looked like Selma Hayak I am sure more men would vote for her and maybe even more woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2
    I myself have never felt like a second class citizen but many woman do and they are paid less. I would not vote for Hilary because she is a woman, I will vote for her because right now I think she can do the best job. Her being a woman just means that woman's issues are closer to her heart then they would be to most men. One of the reasons she has my vote is because she is pro-choice and because I feel she will help and gay and lesbian communtiy. I would also like to see more money used for things such as woman's health issues, child care, education, retirement. In many of these cases especially woman's health I believe a woman will do more for us. And even though we don't want to admit it, looks do matter to us in voting for a president and for that matter for someone getting a job. They just had these shows on TV where fat people and ugly people applied for a job and were given the brush off, later that same person comes back without the ugly makeup and fat suit and gets the job. We are visual creatures by nature. Part of Bill Clinton and JFK's appeal was sex appeal. If Hilary looked like Selma Hayak I am sure more men would vote for her and maybe even more woman.
    RuPaul is more woman than hillary clinton! SHe might say all of this rap, but she realy dosent care! She is just trying to sucker The "female" population in! And as far as Bill and JFK, i dont think sex appeal had anything to do with it. I know I could give two craps what the next president looks like, or any of them for that matter! I honestly dont think anyone realy cares. and I hope to god, that is not what people are looking for!
    Maggie,

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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    What does "sex appeal" Have to do with a presidential candidate?

    As to the wage stats, we've been through that argument before. You can twist the numbers any way you want, without knowing where the statistics came from they are meaningless. However, Hard data suggests that there are reasons other than the sex of the worker for the apparent wage disparity.

    Eliminate the Electoral College? Great. Doing that would enable a candidate to campaign in CA, FLA, TX, and NY and ignore the rest of the country. The electoral college was set up in part to ensure that smaller states had a voice, and that is still needed.
    This is one of my favorites...we send our sons and daughters to DIE for democracy in some foriegn country in some desert far away...but it is NOT good enough for the good old...USA! Bah humbug! Move to a big state if you have a problem...! Whine whine whine.... or democracy!

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    Sara, We don't have a Democracy.

    We have a representative republic.

    I'd prefer to keep it that way.
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    Who's Hilary ???
    Is this the same woman who promised so much to Arkansas because hubby was president and from there, and then later went to New York and conveniently forgot what she had promised ????
    That one ??? Ahhhhhhhhhhhh.....I wouldn't vote for her.....she's already been branded a liar in the bible belt.
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    I hate Hilary, but since I was voted out of citizen rights here in the US, I'll vote for her anyway just so I can be considered human again in my own country.
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  15. Well... I certainly would not want to bore anyone...so my closing statement....

    Did Hillary pander to the Jewish populstion in New York after the brouhaha over her embrace of Arafat's widow? Absolutely. Did she trot out an obsure relative who was Jewish? Absolutely. Did she claim to be Jewish because it is possible that someone in the audience might have thought that maternally she was desended from a Jew? I don't know what anyone in her audience was thinking but she did not make such a claim.

    Did she establish residency in New York after a VERY high profile residency in Washinton DC and Arkansas? Absolutely She is a carpetbagger -- same as Robert Kennedy when he did it. Did she present herself as a long term resident? Other than the Yankee cap....how could she? Residency and politicans is a fluid thing. Cheney had to change his residency from Texas at the last moment as the president and vice-president cannot be from the same state.

    Have I defended her suitability for office?....absolutely not. In fact, I have stated repeatedly that I do not. My reason for not supporting her is I find her too willing to bend to the political wind...as evidenced by her vote for funding the invasion of Iraq...among other things. Is she the only politician, or citizen for that matter, who originally supported the invasion and now does not? Nope. I have read her explanation and her statements at the time of her vote. Interesting, clarifying...but still not good enough for me.

    I believe the discussion should be based on facts...not somebody's spin. But as some find that boring...

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