A woman President

[Marigold2]

I can tell you don't like her one bit. She is however intelligent, a hard worker, has dedicated her life to public service, her daughter turned out ok and she and her husbend are on good terms. Bill was such a great speaker, had such sex appeal as did R. Reagan and JFK. I think that anyone standing next to Bill will look dull both in appeal and intelligence. However when she stands on her own, I hear over and over from people like Barbar WAWA what a warm, funny and likable person she is. I think no matter how good you are you can be overshadowed by another. No matter how good, kind and smart you are, standing next to say someone like Catherine Zeta-Jones most woman would look very dull and not so pretty.

[caseysmom]

I honestly haven't followed her or kept up on her stands on the issues. However I would love to see a woman president and I firmly believe that abortion and Gay marriage should not be political issues.

[Karen]

I am always ready for a change, but wouldn't vote for anyone just because of her gender.

[critter crazy]

I am always ready for a change, but wouldn't vote for anyone just because of her gender.

Very well said!

[caseysmom]

Very well said!

I agree with both of you.

[Lady's Human]

What does "sex appeal" Have to do with a presidential candidate?

As to the wage stats, we've been through that argument before. You can twist the numbers any way you want, without knowing where the statistics came from they are meaningless. However, Hard data suggests that there are reasons other than the sex of the worker for the apparent wage disparity.

Eliminate the Electoral College? Great. Doing that would enable a candidate to campaign in CA, FLA, TX, and NY and ignore the rest of the country. The electoral college was set up in part to ensure that smaller states had a voice, and that is still needed.

[caseysmom]

What does "sex appeal" Have to do with a presidential candidate?

As to the wage stats, we've been through that argument before. You can twist the numbers any way you want, without knowing where the statistics came from they are meaningless. However, Hard data suggests that there are reasons other than the sex of the worker for the apparent wage disparity.

Eliminate the Electoral College? Great. Doing that would enable a candidate to campaign in CA, FLA, TX, and NY and ignore the rest of the country. The electoral college was set up in part to ensure that smaller states had a voice, and that is still needed.

So all that means that Hillary has your vote

[critter crazy]

What does "sex appeal" Have to do with a presidential candidate?

As to the wage stats, we've been through that argument before. You can twist the numbers any way you want, without knowing where the statistics came from they are meaningless. However, Hard data suggests that there are reasons other than the sex of the worker for the apparent wage disparity.

Eliminate the Electoral College? Great. Doing that would enable a candidate to campaign in CA, FLA, TX, and NY and ignore the rest of the country. The electoral college was set up in part to ensure that smaller states had a voice, and that is still needed.

Here here!! Yeah..What he said!!

[Edwina's Secretary]

What does "sex appeal" Have to do with a presidential candidate?

As to the wage stats, we've been through that argument before. You can twist the numbers any way you want, without knowing where the statistics came from they are meaningless. However, Hard data suggests that there are reasons other than the sex of the worker for the apparent wage disparity.

Eliminate the Electoral College? Great. Doing that would enable a candidate to campaign in CA, FLA, TX, and NY and ignore the rest of the country. The electoral college was set up in part to ensure that smaller states had a voice, and that is still needed.

This is one of my favorites...we send our sons and daughters to DIE for democracy in some foriegn country in some desert far away...but it is NOT good enough for the good old...USA! Bah humbug! Move to a big state if you have a problem...! Whine whine whine.... or democracy!

[IRescue452]

I hate Hilary, but since I was voted out of citizen rights here in the US, I'll vote for her anyway just so I can be considered human again in my own country.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Well... I certainly would not want to bore anyone...so my closing statement....

Did Hillary pander to the Jewish populstion in New York after the brouhaha over her embrace of Arafat's widow? Absolutely. Did she trot out an obsure relative who was Jewish? Absolutely. Did she claim to be Jewish because it is possible that someone in the audience might have thought that maternally she was desended from a Jew? I don't know what anyone in her audience was thinking but she did not make such a claim.

Did she establish residency in New York after a VERY high profile residency in Washinton DC and Arkansas? Absolutely She is a carpetbagger -- same as Robert Kennedy when he did it. Did she present herself as a long term resident? Other than the Yankee cap....how could she? Residency and politicans is a fluid thing. Cheney had to change his residency from Texas at the last moment as the president and vice-president cannot be from the same state.

Have I defended her suitability for office?....absolutely not. In fact, I have stated repeatedly that I do not. My reason for not supporting her is I find her too willing to bend to the political wind...as evidenced by her vote for funding the invasion of Iraq...among other things. Is she the only politician, or citizen for that matter, who originally supported the invasion and now does not? Nope. I have read her explanation and her statements at the time of her vote. Interesting, clarifying...but still not good enough for me.

I believe the discussion should be based on facts...not somebody's spin. But as some find that boring...

[Sophist]

I would be more than happy to welcome the right woman as president, but I hope to God that woman is not Hilary. I cannot respect her.


As far as thinking this will magically fix your perception of yourself as a second-class citizen... well, if Golda Meir, Margaret Thatcher, Queen Elizabeth, (not to mention great female non-presidential but still high-ranking U.S. leaders like Sandra Day O'Connor) and others have not done that for you, then maybe the problem doesn't lie within the gender of the holder of a single political office.

[Pam]

I would be more than happy to welcome the right woman as president, but I hope to God that woman is not Hilary.

Agreed!