So Who watched the Jesus Tomb last night

[JenBKR]

but people have to remember how old the bible is.. and how many times it has been translated and retranslated, and how meaning is lost whenever that is done.
If someone wrote that down and hundreds of years later it got rewritten time after time in language after language the meaning could become distorted and misunderstood and taken as literal.

Just to clear this up - the actual original documents of the Bible (written in Greek) are still around (at the Vatican I believe? But not positive about that). Every time the Bible is translated into another version or language, the scholars who do the translating and writing of the Bible do actually go back to the original documents. For example, when the NIV edition came out, it was not translated from the King James version, but from the actual original documents.

Ressurection is the cornerstone of faith?

Yes! Of the Christian faith anyway. Jesus died for our sins and 'rebuilt' the temple (the temple being Jesus himself) in three days.

[DrKym]

Jen,
As I teach religion, there are many more cornerstones that are equally as important to the christians.

The virgin birth for example.

And no one not even the show, implied that Jesus was not ressurected, simply that his family tomb was found.

[JenBKR]

Jen,
As I teach religion, there are many more cornerstones that are equally as important to the christians.

The virgin birth for example.

And no one not even the show, implied that Jesus was not ressurected, simply that his family tomb was found.

I never said that there weren't other cornerstones, but to Christians, the death and resurrection of Jesus is the MOST important thing. It cleanses us of our sin, allows us to have the 'direct line' to God...it completely changed our lives. I understand that you teach religion, but teaching it and believing and living it are two different things. I mean no disrespect, just saying how I feel.

[momoffuzzyfaces]

And no one not even the show, implied that Jesus was not ressurected, simply that his family tomb was found.

That's not what Cameron said in an interview on Fox news two days before the show. He claimed some of the bones they found were in fact Jesus.
Please note: none of the Romans or Pilat who had him crucified EVER denied he died or was ressurected. If they had had his body, or if he had never been crucified, they would have made sure everyone in the country knew about it.
There would never have been Christianity at all.

[DrKym]

That's not what Cameron said in an interview on Fox news two days before the show. He claimed some of the bones they found were in fact Jesus.
Please note: none of the Romans or Pilat who had him crucified EVER denied he died or was ressurected. If they had had his body, or if he had never been crucified, they would have made sure everyone in the country knew about it.
There would never have been Christianity at all.

Actually, at the time of his death, as he was only venerated by other jews, and was a considered a political threat, and a heretic against the jewish faith according to the Pharisses, his body would have been unimportant to them, his crucifiction was a symbolic act of power on their part.

The claim that the bone fragments in Jesus' ossuary are his, is valid as his ossuary is inscripted with, his name, it would stand to reason that the remains left would be his.

As for teaching and believing, I will not argue anyones beliefs, I will discuss religion, but I will not argue it. I believe that religion is a personal choice, no matter what religion you follow.

As for what was or wasn't claimed in the show or in the interviews after, unless you watched it, then many of the points you are bringing up have been accepted and considered worthy of further discussion, as the Catholic representitive on the christian panel said, even if they are Jesus' bones, it cannot touch the faith I have in his message.

[K9soul]

as the Catholic representitive on the christian panel said, even if they are Jesus' bones, it cannot touch the faith I have in his message.

That is exactly how I feel, and I feel that that statement is well said . I was raised Catholic myself, but I find I often am put off by how unyielding and unaccepting of differences organized religion seems to be. I do have my own very deep beliefs and faith, however.

[Marigold2]

I totally agree with K9Soul. I don't understand why people get so upset when any question of the bible comes up. People in China worshipped Budda just as long as we have worshiped Christ. And what about the Egyptians who worshipped the sun gods for 5000 years? The problem with this world is that everyone thinks that their religion is the correct one. No one knows who is right, no one. Ireland and the Middle East is full of people who think/ know they are right and they will KILL you in the name of God. Anyone who kills in the name of God is not a good person or a sane person. Lutherans, Baptists, Methodists, Mormons, Catholics, Jews all have different beliefs. And if you think yours is correct that makes everyone else wrong. More people have died in the name of God then for any other reason on this earth. Pretty sad folks. We have to keep an open mind, we have to be willing to say my beliefs are wrong or incorrect otherwise we become another Middle East with mom's telling their children to strap on bombs in the name of God

[momoffuzzyfaces]

I totally agree with K9Soul. I don't understand why people get so upset when any question of the bible comes up. People in China worshipped Budda just as long as we have worshiped Christ. And what about the Egyptians who worshipped the sun gods for 5000 years? The problem with this world is that everyone thinks that their religion is the correct one. No one knows who is right, no one. Ireland and the Middle East is full of people who think/ know they are right and they will KILL you in the name of God. Anyone who kills in the name of God is not a good person or a sane person. Lutherans, Baptists, Methodists, Mormons, Catholics, Jews all have different beliefs. And if you think yours is correct that makes everyone else wrong. More people have died in the name of God then for any other reason on this earth. Pretty sad folks. We have to keep an open mind, we have to be willing to say my beliefs are wrong or incorrect otherwise we become another Middle East with mom's telling their children to strap on bombs in the name of God

We get upset because we think the Bible is sacred!!! I don't make fun of anyone else's religion and try to respect it. I just want the same for myself and my religion.

While I personally think my religion is right for me, I respect everyone's right to chose or not, for themselves. I'm not for killing anyone who doesn't believe like me. I just wish people would respect me and my religion and pick on some other one for a while. Of course, this is all part of Bible prophecy which, unless you believe in the Bible, you won't believe it's coming true, even though it is.

What is it about the Bible that over the last 2000 years, people have tried so hard to prove it is wrong? In spite of the best efforts of lots of people, the Bible remains the best selling book of all time. Just something to think about.

[Zippy]

Well I know that Jesus died on the cross for my sins and rose in 3 days.I believe the Bible.You don't have to believe if you don't want too.God gave us all a choice to make.That choice is the most important one.

[K9soul]

Just to clear this up - the actual original documents of the Bible (written in Greek) are still around (at the Vatican I believe? But not positive about that). Every time the Bible is translated into another version or language, the scholars who do the translating and writing of the Bible do actually go back to the original documents. For example, when the NIV edition came out, it was not translated from the King James version, but from the actual original documents.

From what I have read, they are the original copies, made from fragments of the original documents that were found in various places. Some of the originals were reportedly written in Hebrew, then translated to Greek.

"We don’t have any of the original autographs (manuscripts penned by the authors) of the New Testament scriptures; all of what we have is from copies."


Taken from here (among other places, this is just one site I found in a hurry in order to show what I meant). This site in particular defends the validity of what was written.

http://home.houston.rr.com/apologia/sec5p4.htm

I really don't feel anger if someone believes differently than I do or questions what I believe. I'm always willing to listen or consider and come up with my own conclusions. I just think people seem overly insulted over this. I don't see it as the big deal that is being made out of it. Just my perception.