So Who watched the Jesus Tomb last night

[borzoimom]

Several Christian leaders were interviewed by Ted Koppel after the program.

We went to bed and I didn't watch it- but tell me Kym- did any of them discuss that Jesus had a brother named Jesus? ( Mary and Josephs son..) There was a email flying around last week of left out transcript from the show. I will see if I can get the posted script, that addressed that it states in the Bible that there were two "Jesus"- first the the Christ, and a younger brother Jesus.. Did they put that back in- or continue to only half read the Biblical facts. Another comment that was made on that circulating email was that the grant money for this " project" exceeded any other prior grant.

[Sara luvs her Tinky]

I don't think Jesus had a brother named Jesus.


Mat 13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

[Felicia's Mom]

No, I didn't watch it. It does not change my belief anyway.

[DrKym]

I don't think Jesus had a brother named Jesus.


Mat 13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Exactly................and to answer Bmoms question, yes they were not only mentioned, but an ossuary in the tomb found with Jesus' ossuary was inscribed " James son of Joseph brother of Jesus",

Finding the holy familys Tomb, I do not think would diminish a faith, but should enhance it.

To have a holy site to pray upon, or to visit, as many do with the Mt. Olive site, and recreate the walk of Jesus which even the catholic church has to admit, isn't even accurate but an approximation of where he MAY have walked.

I do hope they study these artifacts closer, and the tomb itself. How wonderful it would be to be able to stand in front of such a relic.

I would visit it , and I am not Christian.

Kym

[momoffuzzyfaces]

Finding the holy familys Tomb, I do not think would diminish a faith, but should enhance it.

Kym

The resurection is the cornerstone of Christianity!!! It's the saying his body has been found that is offensive!!! Besides his mother Mary's body is already in a tomb in either Jeruselum or St Peter's Basicalica. I can't remember which right now. On the Catholic channel they show pictures of it often. I'll try to remember to watch and find out where. I'm not Catholic so don't watch that channel often.

Oh, and the Matthew they were saying that's in that tomb can't be the apostile. He's buried in St Peter's Basicallica. Parts of all the apostiles are there except John (and Judas of course).

[momoffuzzyfaces]

I REPEAT:

The resurection is the cornerstone of Christianity!!! It's the saying his body has been found that is offensive!!!

We believe the Bible is the inspired word of God, not just some old dusty book writen thousands of years ago.

If the resurection had never have happened, the Romans (who killed him) would have shouted it from the roof tops. The apostiles would never have let themselves be tortured and killed, and Christianity would never have gotten off the ground let alone lasted for thousands of years.

[DrKym]

Ressurection is the cornerstone of faith? I would think that according to the Gospel, which states that there is a material body and a spirtual body.......the thought of Jesus being ressurected in the same manner as the Bible states would have no effect on the issue.

Looking at the ressurection, from both a biblical and historical standpoint, Jesus was placed in a temporary tomb along with others that were crucified, as was the SOP of the day, families then collected their dead and buried them properly in their family tombs.

That would have no effect on Jesus appearring 3 days later to his followers.

1st Corinthians 15:39~53

[K9soul]

I didn't watch it (don't watch any TV really), but I don't understand why so many are enraged and angered and taking it as an attack on their faith. Why should it challenge one's faith, or the belief that Jesus was holy, whether in a religion he was a prophet or the son of God?

If you were to take the finding as real, wouldn't it in fact prove he existed? Perhaps not in the tomb people originally believed in. I know the Christian bible states he rose from the dead and left no body, but people have to remember how old the bible is.. and how many times it has been translated and retranslated, and how meaning is lost whenever that is done. How speech of thousands of years ago can hold completely different meaning than speech of today. I.e. at a wake someone may say the deceased person is not in that casket but is now in Heaven. By that they mean the person's spirit. If someone wrote that down and hundreds of years later it got rewritten time after time in language after language the meaning could become distorted and misunderstood and taken as literal.

I personally don't believe there is any reason to take it as a threat or that someone is evil to even suggest such a thing. Hundreds of years ago everyone knew without a doubt that God made the world flat. "Science" proved it wrong and now we know it's round, but it doesn't mean we can't still believe that God MADE the world, even if our perception of it has changed. That is what happens, perceptions and knowledge changes through the ages, who really knows what is "right" and what is "wrong." Maybe someday we will know all the answers but I don't think it will be in this life. I just don't think we can possibly just KNOW beyond doubt exactly cut and dry what did or didn't happen in those times. I feel one can believe in God and believe in Jesus without adhering to some specific written word of the way things happened.

[critter crazy]

I did not watch it, and honestly had absolutely no interest.

[JenBKR]

but people have to remember how old the bible is.. and how many times it has been translated and retranslated, and how meaning is lost whenever that is done.
If someone wrote that down and hundreds of years later it got rewritten time after time in language after language the meaning could become distorted and misunderstood and taken as literal.

Just to clear this up - the actual original documents of the Bible (written in Greek) are still around (at the Vatican I believe? But not positive about that). Every time the Bible is translated into another version or language, the scholars who do the translating and writing of the Bible do actually go back to the original documents. For example, when the NIV edition came out, it was not translated from the King James version, but from the actual original documents.

Ressurection is the cornerstone of faith?

Yes! Of the Christian faith anyway. Jesus died for our sins and 'rebuilt' the temple (the temple being Jesus himself) in three days.

[DrKym]

Jen,
As I teach religion, there are many more cornerstones that are equally as important to the christians.

The virgin birth for example.

And no one not even the show, implied that Jesus was not ressurected, simply that his family tomb was found.

[JenBKR]

Jen,
As I teach religion, there are many more cornerstones that are equally as important to the christians.

The virgin birth for example.

And no one not even the show, implied that Jesus was not ressurected, simply that his family tomb was found.

I never said that there weren't other cornerstones, but to Christians, the death and resurrection of Jesus is the MOST important thing. It cleanses us of our sin, allows us to have the 'direct line' to God...it completely changed our lives. I understand that you teach religion, but teaching it and believing and living it are two different things. I mean no disrespect, just saying how I feel.

[momoffuzzyfaces]

And no one not even the show, implied that Jesus was not ressurected, simply that his family tomb was found.

That's not what Cameron said in an interview on Fox news two days before the show. He claimed some of the bones they found were in fact Jesus.
Please note: none of the Romans or Pilat who had him crucified EVER denied he died or was ressurected. If they had had his body, or if he had never been crucified, they would have made sure everyone in the country knew about it.
There would never have been Christianity at all.

[K9soul]

Just to clear this up - the actual original documents of the Bible (written in Greek) are still around (at the Vatican I believe? But not positive about that). Every time the Bible is translated into another version or language, the scholars who do the translating and writing of the Bible do actually go back to the original documents. For example, when the NIV edition came out, it was not translated from the King James version, but from the actual original documents.

From what I have read, they are the original copies, made from fragments of the original documents that were found in various places. Some of the originals were reportedly written in Hebrew, then translated to Greek.

"We don’t have any of the original autographs (manuscripts penned by the authors) of the New Testament scriptures; all of what we have is from copies."


Taken from here (among other places, this is just one site I found in a hurry in order to show what I meant). This site in particular defends the validity of what was written.

http://home.houston.rr.com/apologia/sec5p4.htm

I really don't feel anger if someone believes differently than I do or questions what I believe. I'm always willing to listen or consider and come up with my own conclusions. I just think people seem overly insulted over this. I don't see it as the big deal that is being made out of it. Just my perception.