Something I wanted to say

[Edwina's Secretary]

I guess I don't know what you mean exactly. You said,

" However, and especially in recent times, I've noticed that not just one but on many political-orientated threads, it seems that no other political views exist apart from that of America's"

Liz...I believe she means things such as:

Because you taxpayers were stupid enought to vote for "free" health care.

An ad hominem and rude response made by one of our fellow Americans to someone from another country.

It is fair to say that calling people "stupid" because they voted for something with which you disagree...is..what would be the right word?

Unfortunately there are provincial and uncultured people in every society. The US has so many people and this site so many from the US....it just stands out more!

[mike001]

I know where you are coming from Miss Z and I must say it's been a long time since I've read anything so well put.Thanks for a great post.

[Bengalz]

I agree - this is a well written and well thought out post Miss Z. You have clearly stated your feelings in a mature and sensitive manner. We all have opinions and those opinions will differ from time to time. Your clarification is a good example of how mature discussions should be handled - respectfully.

Thank you,
Betty

[borzoimom]

I agree - this is a well written and well thought out post Miss Z. You have clearly stated your feelings in a mature and sensitive manner. We all have opinions and those opinions will differ from time to time. Your clarification is a good example of how mature discussions should be handled - respectfully.

Thank you,
Betty

AMEN!

[Twisterdog]

That was a good post, and one to get us all thinking.

I usually don't get involved in politics too much, because to me it is usually a "lose/lose" situation. But if I ever do make an offensive remark about another's country of origin, religion, political views, etc. rest assured it is not intentional. Speaking for myself, I'm sure I sometimes do present a completely "American" view of things, simply because I am an American. We all speak from the experience we have, and from what we know. I do try, as I think most of us do, to see the world from a different perspective, but we all have a limited viewpoint to some degree.

I guess, though, that if I posted on a site based in, and comprised mostly of citizens from, England or Russia or France ... I would expect an almost strictly English, Russian or French point of view ... however well one definition of "point of view" can fit an entire country, especially one as large and diverse as America.

[carole]

All i can say is we have so much to learn from one another,listen with an open ear.)

[sparks19]

One thing I thought of while watching TV lol

I don't think anyone is harder on Americans than... Americans. We constantly disagree with one another and are constantly questioning not only our governments decisions but our own as well. so while you think "we" are rough on your country and make blanket statements.... you should see the things we say about ourselves.

[Karen]

Thank you for your post, Miss Z! It is always welcome, and good to hear the viewpoints of people from somewhere else.

Do not let any single American poster represent our whole country in your mind, please. We are as varied as can be - even though politicians talk about "red states" and "Blue states" at election time, each and every state contains people of every political stripe - our states, indeed our country - is more plaid than solid-colored.

And of course, we all value our freedom of expression - even when it leads to disagreements.

And here on Pet Talk, I hope we can always be civil even in our disagreements, as well. Your post was carefully and thoughtfully written, and I applaud that!

By the way, I had a great-great Aunt Emma, who emmigrated here from England with her sister - my great-great-grandmother, when they were young women and to the end of her life told everyone she hated it here, and wanted to go back to England, but never did. I never met her, she died before I was born, but whenever I was showing older generations pictures I found cleaning my Great Aunt Bertha's house out, to a person, each would say "Oh, that's Aunt Emma, she hated it here, and wanted to go back!" and that's pretty much all I know about her!

[lizbud]

Liz...I believe she means things such as:

An ad hominem and rude response made by one of our fellow Americans to someone from another country.

It is fair to say that calling people "stupid" because they voted for something with which you disagree...is..what would be the right word?

Unfortunately there are provincial and uncultured people in every society. The US has so many people and this site so many from the US....it just stands out more!

I see. I guess I didn't read the thread, or more likely, mentally tuned
out the rude comments. Kind of like my own mental "ignore" option.

[GreyhoundGirl]

Kind of like my own mental "ignore" option.

Where can I get one of those?

[sparks19]

ES, the original poster was mature enough to just voice her disappointments... rather than bringing up posts from another thread. i suggest if you have such a problem with that particular poster perhaps you should address him personally. this whole passive aggressive act is getting old. Everyone knows what was said... everyone knows what the thread is about.... if you have such an issue I suggest you be an adult about it and address your problems with HIM. But I believe it was you who said it was OK to treat people like they are stupid if you believe they are stupid.... isn't that how it went?

I am from one of those countries he is referring to with the socialized medicine but I am not throwing a passive aggressive fit such as yourself.

Sorry for getting off track... passive aggressive behaviour grates my nerves... I believe if you have something to say.... say it.

Miss Z, your post was well put and very eloquent.... I admire your ability to leave past things in the past and only bring up your personal concerns. not bad for a girl your age

Sometimes it is hard for people to see outside of their own scope.... so I can see how things could be viewed as "americanized". although I like Lizbud's point about how no one in the US feels the same way about anything Same can be said about dog training. No matter what you learn or what methods you use.... there will always be another trainer to tell you it is wrong.


AHHHH speaking of American. idol is about to start... gotta go lol

[lizbud]

Where can I get one of those?

It takes age and experience to develop this gift.

[GreyhoundGirl]

It takes age and experience to develop this gift.

Haha, I'd better start practising!