Who licenses dog trainers?

[applesmom]

Thats Mikes way of saying my name casual. My certifications require license and after reading all this, with my experiences, I can say this- it scares me others can claim to be certified after I have SPEND SO MUCH money, time and effort. I know who I am - ... And it scares me to death, that people that have no certification can be " a trainer- "... Jeez- no wonder behavior problems run rampant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whoa!

[borzoimom]

Whoa!

YUP!!! YOU heard me- no wonder we get so many posts I tried this trainer and that.
My opinion now- after reading all this- ALLLLLLLLLL TRAINERS THAT CALL THEMSELVES trainers need to be certified by a REAL SCHOOL and FORCED TO CARRY a license like I do.. This has scared me to death- mail order certificates- GOOD LORD!!!! jeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!

[DrKym]

Popcorn anyone???

[NicoleLJ]

Popcorn anyone???

I will take some of that popcorn. Thanks.
Nicole

[agilityk9trainer]

Popcorn anyone???

LOL!! I mean, really lauging out loud!!

As I stated previously, I don't want the government getting into licensing trainers. Not only does the red tape boggle the mind (try getting an agility school zoned in a city in America...talk about red tape...I'm over my head in it right now), but having the government dictate what I might or might not teach is dangerous. I'm ab all-positive trainer. What if the government decides that force training is the best and only method we should use. I refuse to use those methods. They destroy agility dogs. What if the licensing requirements are that I must conform to those force training rules...use of training collars, no clickers, no treats, etc.

The government does need to regulate abuse. No doubt there. But to require a license? Not a good idea to get the government involved.

If you want to find a good trainer, look at the trainer's students. How do they do? Do they meet the expectations you require? Visit class. Do the dogs act happy? Are the people happy? Are the dogs well-behaved for the class-level? Does the trainer offer good class management?

If you're looking for competition training, look further. Look at titles. Look at show results. Especially look at students' results. Ask around. Pull students aside and ask. With a little groundwork, you can find some excellent trainers out there.

I have hesitated posting the following, as I fear it sounds like I'm a braggart. However, here goes. While I did receive "accreditation" for free from a previous dog training employer, I do not have any "certification" or "license," as they are useless. (As was the "accreditiation") Even so, I usually have a year long waiting list and am told my reputation locally is spotless. Word has come back to me that some are calling me the best agility trainer in the state. (I do not agree, with that, BTW. There is one other trainer who exceeds me) Do I need a certification to get a rep like that? No. I need good training techniques, students who excel at the sport and my own dogs who excel as well.

You want to find a good trainer? Don't look for certification. Look for results.

[NicoleLJ]

You want to find a good trainer? Don't look for certification. Look for results.

That was the best statement all night. Great post.
Nicole

[agilityk9trainer]

That was the best statement all night. Great post.
Nicole

Thank you. And I agree that Caseysmom's dogs are probably quite bright.

[borzoimom]

Thank you. And I agree that Caseysmom's dogs are probably quite bright.

Agilitytrainer- you have shelties- and they are know for intellegence in the "dog world". Were you NOT able to train them by your self, you would look for a multi facet trainer- would you not? Because the breed is known for high intellegence - yes you would.
Same with shepherds etc. As a trainer needs to be on different levels for the highest of performance. Your experience with a high intellegent breed - would make you look for this right??? Thats the point- .. that doesnt mean caseymom doesnt have a smart breed- I do not even know what breed she has- but had she have a "intellegent breed" she would look for a multi facet trainer. Just like someone with border collies etc.
I do not know caseysmom at all. Never heard anything positive for me to look into it, but thats the point. Certain breeds need more stimulation than others- and thats a fact as you well know..

[borzoimom]

Popcorn anyone???

WHAT THE HEY.. Can I have extra butter on mine???

[NicoleLJ]

YUP!!! YOU heard me- no wonder we get so many posts I tried this trainer and that.
My opinion now- after reading all this- ALLLLLLLLLL TRAINERS THAT CALL THEMSELVES trainers need to be certified by a REAL SCHOOL and FORCED TO CARRY a license like I do.. This has scared me to death- mail order certificates- GOOD LORD!!!! jeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!

ummm why? If you can prove to me that ALL certified trainers make NO mistakes and have not ruined or caused any behavioural issues in any dogs then I will jump on your band wagon. Otherwise all you are requesting is for the government to have more control in our lives in areas where they do not need to be.
Nicole

[caseysmom]

YUP!!! YOU heard me- no wonder we get so many posts I tried this trainer and that.
My opinion now- after reading all this- ALLLLLLLLLL TRAINERS THAT CALL THEMSELVES trainers need to be certified by a REAL SCHOOL and FORCED TO CARRY a license like I do.. This has scared me to death- mail order certificates- GOOD LORD!!!! jeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!

To be honest I would rather not have you train my dogs, you seem rather high strung to me and I would think the dogs would do better with a calmer person. Your stories change a lot, you said 2 or 3 pages before you had to be in class in 15 minutes.

[borzoimom]

To be honest I would rather not have you train my dogs, you seem rather high strung to me and I would think the dogs would do better with a calmer person. Your stories change a lot, you said 2 or 3 pages before you had to be in class in 15 minutes.

LOLLLLLLLLLLL IF YOU HAD a high intellegence breed you would. As Dr.Goodnow knows- I have had some of the top rated, best producing dogs in the breed.. My name may have changed- but I have not.. lol.. Right Kym?

[caseysmom]

LOLLLLLLLLLLL IF YOU HAD a high intellegence breed you would. As Dr.Goodnow knows- I have had some of the top rated, best producing dogs in the breed.. My name may have changed- but I have not.. lol.. Right Kym?

Oh now my dogs are dumb...how dare you. You are over the top lady.

[NicoleLJ]

LOLLLLLLLLLLL IF YOU HAD a high intellegence breed you would.

Ummmm that was rude. I think you need to take a step back. and take a deep breath. You have no idea how intelligent her dog is so to start that was really uncalled for.
Nicole

[caseysmom]

Ummmm that was rude. I think you need to take a step back. and take a deep breath. You have no idea how intelligent her dog is so to start that was really uncalled for.
Nicole

Thank you Nicole that was very sweet and to be honest I don't need intelligent dogs, I love them for them and have no need to "show off".